WelshTricky Posted 15 January Share Posted 15 January (edited) John Stanley Bryant #J79007, he was a coal miner and served in the Royal Navy (see attached) Can anyone help with getting a little more information - i.e. what these ships were and so what he most likely did I assume the first one Vivid I is where he trained? so maybe was a land ship. Where the otehr ships also land ships or did they go out? I don't understand why they have 1 or 2 after their names? Were they substitute ships or is it a classification of geograhy?? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. He was the husband of a great aunt (they had no children) so trying to keep his memory alive Vivid I - 5 Oct-2 Dec 17 Attentive II - 28 Dec 17 to 01 Dec 18 Pembroke I - 1 Jan - 22 Feb 1919 Attached image is from following source: Title : UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939 Author: Ancestry.com Edited 15 January by WelshTricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin GWF TEAM Posted 15 January Admin Share Posted 15 January Welcome to the forum. As per forum rules, pease acknowledge source of images. With any luck the naval experts will be along to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTricky Posted 15 January Author Share Posted 15 January Just now, GWF TEAM said: Welcome to the forum. As per forum rules, pease acknowledge source of images. With any luck the naval experts will be along to help. Apologies - first post Source Title : UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939 Author: Ancestry.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 15 January Share Posted 15 January Hello there, Record keeping for the Royal Navy is a bit different, because of the Naval Discipline Act. Hopefully you can get a bit more of an insight from the following thread: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/299047-naval-discipline-act/ When he was on shore, he was allocated to the Accounting Base for Devonport of HMS Vivid I, his home port. At the end of the war, we see that he spent some time at Chatham, and was allocated to their Accounting Base of HMS Pembroke I. This makes sense, given that he had been in Kent since 28 Dec 1917. He was aboard the Monitor M.27 which was part of the Dover Patrol. The vessel was too small to be an Accounting Base, so the Dover Patrol clerks administered his pay and he was associated with their accounting base of HMS Attentive II. Fortunately for us, they put the name of the monitor in brackets. Hope this makes sense. http://dreadnoughtproject.org/tfs/index.php/H.M.S._M.27_(1915) http://dreadnoughtproject.org/tfs/index.php/Dover_Patrol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTricky Posted 15 January Author Share Posted 15 January 3 minutes ago, Keith_history_buff said: Hello there, Record keeping for the Royal Navy is a bit different, because of the Naval Discipline Act. Hopefully you can get a bit more of an insight from the following thread: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/299047-naval-discipline-act/ When he was on shore, he was allocated to the Accounting Base for Devonport of HMS Vivid I, his home port. At the end of the war, we see that he spent some time at Chatham, and was allocated to their Accounting Base of HMS Pembroke I. This makes sense, given that he had been in Kent since 28 Dec 1917. He was aboard the Monitor M.27 which was part of the Dover Patrol. The vessel was too small to be an Accounting Base, so the Dover Patrol clerks administered his pay and he was associated with their accounting base of HMS Attentive II. Fortunately for us, they put the name of the monitor in brackets. Hope this makes sense. http://dreadnoughtproject.org/tfs/index.php/H.M.S._M.27_(1915) http://dreadnoughtproject.org/tfs/index.php/Dover_Patrol Many thanks Keith. I'll read the links tonight Very kind of you to reply and explain in detail - much appreciated Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 15 January Share Posted 15 January The notation “Devonport” at the very top of his record shows that this rating had been allocated to Devonport Port Division. In the normal course, this means that he would have returned to RN Barracks, Devonport (HMS VIVID) when drafted ashore between sea drafts. Hence VIVID was the location for his initial training in 1917. As @Keith_history_buff has noted, his final draft was to the RN Barracks, Chatham (HMS PEMBROKE). One might expect a Devonport rating to be demobilised at his Port Division. However, given his previous draft to the ship’s company of HMS M.27 in the Dover Patrol, it was probably deemed administratively more convenient to demobilize him at Chatham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTricky Posted 15 January Author Share Posted 15 January 1 hour ago, horatio2 said: The notation “Devonport” at the very top of his record shows that this rating had been allocated to Devonport Port Division. In the normal course, this means that he would have returned to RN Barracks, Devonport (HMS VIVID) when drafted ashore between sea drafts. Hence VIVID was the location for his initial training in 1917. As @Keith_history_buff has noted, his final draft was to the RN Barracks, Chatham (HMS PEMBROKE). One might expect a Devonport rating to be demobilised at his Port Division. However, given his previous draft to the ship’s company of HMS M.27 in the Dover Patrol, it was probably deemed administratively more convenient to demobilize him at Chatham. Thank you All makes sense what you and Keith have pointed out - I never would have worked all that. Thanks again both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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