Steve1871 Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January Several years, I bought a CD-ROM of 2000+ photos of German photos. Der 1. Weltkreig in Bildern. With 24 folders/ albums. The first one album 01 Pionier Kompanie photo #15 shows troops equipped with Gew.88 rifles and 3 soldiers are wearing S.71 bayonets ( they fit the Gew.88) and one soldier with an Ersatz bayonet. I do not read German. I only guessing 1914, maybe Belgium? Have no clue, but Very Interesting photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January By comparation of the ASG88/98 by the 3.soldiers from left and shape of scabbard, i would believe these are PFM1871 by soldiers as the scabbard is too thick when compare the other scabbard, by Pioneers and maybe a reserve units nothing strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert.f Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January (edited) Hello, Steve, the photo taken in Poland , German -Russian front 1915, Błonie ( Blonie Stellung) Edited 2 January by bert.f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 2 January Author Share Posted 2 January (edited) Hey Andy, they look like regular S.71 bayonets, I think kind of rare photo as most members think the S71 did not see any action. With the asg88/98 puts this as a war time photo, yes it is pioneers but still war time . It would be nice if we’re PFM’s, would be even more interesting. Do you have this CD-ROM?. Looked on line and did not find it. Just the folder when I downloaded the disc years ago Edited 2 January by Steve1871 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January (edited) By Pioneers was normal used PFM1871. Maybe by better resolution or by magnyfying glass You will see the difference,problem is perspective and position of the bayonets in photo would be important. Its possible these are only S1871 bayonets, and You are correct Steve, when the long hooks of scabbard were used only on S1871. Edited 2 January by AndyBsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January 8 hours ago, bert.f said: , German -Russian front 1915, Błonie ( Blonie Stellung) Thanks Bert! I was going to suggest early-mid 1915 as the earliest date on account of the Ersatz. IIRC from the evidence I have seen, these started to be made no earlier than late December 1914. Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mortimer Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January (edited) This coincides with a regular M71 with an reserve engineer company stamp on the scabbard: https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=19421157 Wonder if this existed? Haven't found anything in my sources of Pioniere using regular infantry M71s instead of the regular PFM71s. Photos for archival reasons when the auction ends and will no longer be visible: Edited 2 January by Sir Mortimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 2 January Author Share Posted 2 January O.K., will accept these are S.71 PFM, just makes this pic even more cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January (edited) I would think the left soldier in front have a NCO porteepee on it, so using with S1871 would be probably normal there. Even not typical but it is there anything about backside text? as this could be some reserve units with non standart equipment. The piece S1871 added by S.Mortimer has a Pionier unit on scabbard as Ersatz Batallion marked. Edited 2 January by AndyBsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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