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Need Help Identifying WWI German/Austrian Helmet (markings etc)


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Hi there everyone! I recently picked this up at a show paired with another helmet ($100 for the set). Was originally told that they were both reproductions but went to several vendors that told me this one was original, especially the shell itself.

The liner itself is leather, and the metal prongs that hold the liner together are dated 1916. It seems as though the liner has also been sewn together in places. B.D.64 may be the maker/size? There are also markings on the inside of the liner pads as well, but I am unsure if they are German or Austrian. There is also a 36 painted in the rear of the helmet…maybe that is division or regiment but I am also unsure about that. Any help would be great as I am not an expert on helmets.

thanks! :)
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I’m sure the real experts will chip in shortly, but my initial impression is that this is a cleverly aged repro. I don’t think BD is a known maker mark, the lettering looks a little crude as does the quality of the fold over of the rim. The dirt, wear and corrosion is also giving me an ‘induced’ vibe.

But I could be wrong. Even if it is a repro, it would make a good display piece.

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Thank you. I looked at German maker marks and none came up, figuring it may be Austrian or perhaps another nation. But I don’t know if any other nation produced these types of helmets for the central powers. But yes, I am skeptical and fascinated at the same time. Hopefully I can get some insight!

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64 looks like size, the BD is unknown , the liner is like mentioned not old, the ink stamp is not good, probably there is Csepel for Hungarian town. Anyway the unit stamp is probably not korekt.

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AndyBsk thank you. It looks quite well done to be a repro. Do you think the wear (especially on the outside of the helmet) could be a repro? Like peregrinvs said it looks quite good to be a repro

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Maybe the helmet body is ok, i am not expert on WW1 helmets, anyway the liner and the used leather material is not 100 years old, which is evident. When You have other german WW1 helmet compare the weight as repro helmets are not made from so heavy material as real one.

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Here is a list of all German and Austria-Hungarian manufacturers.

"BD" is not on any list and the font is wrong for what you usually see on a WW1 helmet. 

This entire helmet is a very well aged reproduction.  

Still a good display piece, and well worth $50 in my opinion. 

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Bummer, I was hoping mine was from the Transylvania manufacturer…that would’ve been cool. Guess we will never know for sure🤣

Otherwise, thank you. The information is much appreciated.

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I might be wrong about this. But after I notice the lower chinstrap rivet, I have a feeling this one 'might' belong to Germans. Source: 

 

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