Who is this bloke?

[stevenbecker]

Mates,

Sorry about this, but this man has stumped me for some time, and hoped you may have better luck then me

McLAUGHLIN    William Henry    100    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    5Co AASC

Possibly prom 2/Lt 5 Sqn AFC F&B (possibly also AKA McLaughlan) (not indentified)  

Clerk    21    Croydon Qld    

Enl 25-8-14    RTA 10-5-19    

Nok Croydon Qld
 

I have been able to identify this man to search for his Service file with the ANA

Bon chance

[busterfield]

A bit of a long shot.

https://www.pictureipswich.com.au/nodes/view/9725?keywords=

metions Peter Blair McLaughlin's father as William Henry RFC in WW1, intelligence officer RAAF WW2.

https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=1076641&c=WW2

Born 1893

[tankengine888]

Listed age 21 on embarkation so I think Buster's hit the nail on the head perfectly! 

I presume then that his First World War record was amalgamated with his RAAF dossier

Also found trove articles, possibly him?

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/56947374?searchTerm="Flt Lt McLaughlin"

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/147862141?searchTerm="Flying Officer McLaughlin"

Zidane

[stevenbecker]

Yes that's him alright his son is recorded as Mclauglan and Mclaughlin in the ANA

But still no WWI or WWII record for his father William Henry McLaughlin

Nice to be able to confirm the AFC angle, that's a good start.

Cheers 

[busterfield]

Not digitised, but maybe ?

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=32938241&isAv=N

[tankengine888]

Timed out session buster.

I think it's just a merged record. You often see WW1 records merged with WW2 records because they're the same man.

Because McLaughlin stayed to just after Korea, his record is not digitised with the rest of the WW1 or WW1 records (unless someone paid for it).

When I tried a WW2 + Korea (Army) bloke, his record was held in a state library I think in Melbourne...

Zidane.

[stevenbecker]

Many thanks guys

Yeh I think that's the best we'll get.

 

 

[frev]

Steve - I started having a look into this man - and guess what - it turned out that he married whilst in England!  So, of course I kept going and built a file on him. 

Just for your interest I'll attach a copy here... [grrr....formatting was all over the place, but I've fixed it a little]
Hopefully some day his other service records will become available...

 

McLAUGHLAN, William Henry [aka McLAUGHLIN]
Born on the 13th August 1893 Qld – the son of David Thomas McLAUGHLAN (Engine Driver) and Ellen KERRINS (Reg. 1893/C/1103), who married in Qld on the 19/1/1893.
Father’s address: Brown St, Croydon, Nth Qld
Ellen died 14/7/1921 Qld

Brother: Charles John b. 31/10/1894 Croydon, Qld (Railway clerk) – WW1: Pte 2368, 41st Bn, RTA 30/1/1918 (GSW L/arm) – marr Hilda JENSEN 1923 – d.10/8/1987 Qld

WW1 Service:
Enlisted AIF 25/8/1914 – embarked Brisbane 24/9/1914 on HMAT A5 Omrah, as Driver 100, with the 1st Light Horse Brigade Train (5th Coy ASC)
Transferred to the Australian Flying Corps
Pte 100, 4th Battalion, AFC
Fit as Pilot, Dental Treatment 31/1/1918
No.2 S of A 1/2/1918 – to Arm Sch 21/3/1918
2nd Lieut on probation 1/4/1918 – 2nd Lieut 26/8/1918 (London Gazette 17/9/1918)
Arm School, Tetbury 29/4/1918 – Graduated 6/11/1918
No.5 Training Squadron, AFC
2nd Lieutenant 6/11/1918
S.W. Area F.T. School 25/11/1918 for course
No.5 T.S. AFC 14/12/1918 on completion of course
Injured 1919
AFC Minchampton 1919
27 T.D.S. to Edinburgh Dispersal Centre 11/2/1919
Embarked for return to Australia 10/5/1919 on HT Wahehe
Appointment terminated 31/8/1919

Married Isabel Mary GOSDEN in the Mar Qtr 1919 at Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
[Banns of marriage at St Mary, Tetbury, Gloucestershire 2nd to 16th March 1919 – Certificate given 22nd March 1919]
[Isabel born 1894 Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England (reg. Melksham) – the daughter of David (Draper) & Louisa – living Portsmouth 1911 – died 31/7/1970 (of 11 Walsall St, Kensington Park, Sth Australia) – Probate £5022 in England]

Children: *Peter Blair born 7/8/1920 Brisbane, Qld – Enl 27/5/1940 Adelaide – Sgt 407063, RAAF, 3 Service Flying Training School – died in a flying accident 15/4/1941, age 20 –buried Ipswich War Cemetery.
*Mary Louise born 16/4/1922 Bath, England – WW2: Enl 7/9/1942 (of Somerton, SA) – disch 1/3/1946 Corporal 107024, RAAF, Parafield
*Ian David born 3/12/1923 Annerley, Qld – WW2: Enl 6/12/1941 (of Somerton, SA) – disch 12/4/1946 Flight Lieut O4982 (417093), 4 Service Flying Training School (MID)
*Betty Doreen born 22/8/1926 Thompson Estate, Qld – WW2: Enl 30/19/1944 (of Somerton, SA) – disch 8/7/1946 Aircraftwoman 114617, RAAF, 6 Service Flying Training School

William and Isabel’s addresses:
1921: Clackmannan, Collins St, Coorparoo, Qld
1925: Garnet Hill, Duke St, Thompson Estate, (Annerley) (Qld
1943: 23 Scarborough St, Glenelg (Somerton), SA

A pregnant Isabel with son Peter travelled to the UK on the Suevic, arriving London on the 19/2/1922 – their address whilst staying in England was 3 Magdalane Rd, Holloway, Bath.

Post War:
Reserve of Officers
To be 2/Lieut with substantive rank on R. of O. equiv. that held in AIF 1/7/1920
Form of Commission issued 12/8/1924
Placed on Retired List 1/9/1926
Removed from Retired List 20/12/1928

WW2:
Squadron Leader O4392 (281948), AMSE
Enlisted 4/11/1940 Darwin, NT – discharged 31/3/1953
Intelligence Officer

William died on the 3rd of April 1982 Vic. He was cremated on the 8/4/1982 and his remains interred in the RC section of the Fawkner Memorial Park, Vic – [RC U, Grave 7010]

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The Capricornian (Rockhampton, Qld), Sat 5 Apr 1919 (p.13):
AUSTRALIAN CASAULTIES
Injured
Second-Lieutenant W.H. M’Laughlin (Croydon).

The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld), Sat 17 May 1919 (p.3):
OUR LONDON LETTER
Lieut W.H. McLaughlan, A.F.C., of Croydon, is with the Australian Flying Corps at Minchinhampton, Glos. He is now on leave in London.

The Queenslander (Brisbane, Qld), Sat 21 Jun 1919 (p.13):
ON THE WAY HOME – SOLDIERS PER H.T. WAHEHE
The following have been listed for return to Australia, and are actually en route from abroad. ………
Lieut W.H. M’Laughlin, A.F.C., Enoggera.

The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA), Wed 16 Apr 1941 (p.15):
R.A.A.F. PLANE CRASH IN QUEENSLAND
SYDNEY April 15
Two men were killed when a single-engined R.A.A.F. machine crashed a Mutdapilly, 10 miles south-west of Amberley, Queensland today. They were –
SERGEANT PETER BLAIR McLAUGHLAN, 20, single, formerly of Glenelg, S.A.
LEADING AIRCRAFTMAN REGINALD VICTOR HARVEY, 25, single, formerly of Subiaco, Perth.
Central area headquarters of the R.A.A.F. issued the following statement tonight: –
“McLaughlan and Harvey were carving out air-to-ground gunnery practice. It appears that the aircraft dived into the ground from a low altitude.”
Sergeant McLaughlan was educated at the Adelaide High School and the Pulteney Grammar School. He was a clerk in the Adelaide branch of the Commercial Banking Company of Sydney when he joined the R.A.A.F. in June, 1940. His father served in the Royal Flying Corps in the last war and is now serving as an intelligence officer in the R.A.A.F. Sergeant McLaughlan was trained at the Laverton, Somers, Parafield and Point Cook stations, and did a staff pilot’s course at Cressy, Victoria, before becoming an airman pilot in the defence training squadron at Amberley. Before he joined the R.A.A.F. he was for three years a member of the 18th Light Horse (Machine-Gun) Regiment. …………
News (Adelaide, SA), Wed 1 Nov 1944 (p.5):
ARMY VETERANS NOW R.A.A.F. ROOKIES
Among the girls who joined the Waaf were Betty McLaughlan, of Scarborough street, Glenelg, daughter of Squadron-Leader W.H. McLaughlan, and Hazel Caddy……
The McLaughlans are an “Air Force family,” for, as well as her father, her brother Ian, and sister Mary are members of the service.

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Notes:
Embarkation Roll: https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/R2064716

Embarked Brisbane 24/9/1914 on HMAT A5 Omrah
McLAUGHLIN, William Henry, Dvr 100, 21, Clerk, NOK: Mr D McLaughlin, Brown St, Croydon, Nth Qld, RC, Enl 25/8/1914

AIF Project: https://aif.adfa.edu.au/showPerson?pid=201944 Lieut AFC – RTA 10/5/1919

Nominal Roll: https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/P10902739

RAF Record: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8202097

Officer’s Service Record: Reserve of Officers
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=9094859

McLAUGHLAN, William Henry – Born 13/8/1893
Father David, Croydon, Qld
Address of NOK: Garnet Hill, Duke St, Annerley
2nd Lieut 6/11/1918 – app terminated 31/8/1919

WW2 Nominal Roll: https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=1076641&c=WW2

Grave photo on “Billion Graves” website
https://billiongraves.com/grave/William-Henry-McLaughlan/10268574?referrer=myheritage

Brother Charles John McLAUGHLAN:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=1952302

NOK: Father David, Brown St Croydon, Qld
Born c1895 Croydon (31/10/1894) (Kairns)

Children (WW2):
Peter Blair (Son of William Henry and Isabel Mary of Somerton, Sth Australia.)
https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=1012480&c=WW2#R

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/R1719037

Mary Louise https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=948818&c=WW2

Ian David https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=1205506&c=WW2#R

Betty Doreen https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=954977&c=WW2#R

Electoral Rolls:
1921 ER: Wm (Clerk) & Isabel at Clackmannan, Collins St, Coorparoo, Qld
1925: McLAUGHLAN, William Henry, Garnet Hill, Duke St, Thompson Estate, Qld – Clerk
Also Isabel Mary
1943 ER: Wm (Com Ofer, RAAF) & Isabel, 23 Scarborough St, Glenelg, SA

Mother’s death reg. under McLAUCHLAN

[stevenbecker]

Frev,

Many thanks, nice one.

I was also going through the 5 Trg Sqn AFC war dairy where he is mentioned a number of times

So far I am still going through it, but he is mentioned as a cadet still in July 1918 when he passed his MG Gunnery courses/Test in Lewis and Vickers MG's

So more to check on him I see now why the two dates for his prom to 2/Lt

He is shown Solo flying on the 31 Aug and during Sept 1918 with B Flight 5th Trg Sqn AFC

I had though you soloed once but appears not?

 

Edited 9 September , 2023 by stevenbecker