Skipman Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 Can you help decipher the entry in the Troop, Battery, or Company column for Casualty number 605 Private 5460 Peter Haggart of the 1/4th Royal Scots. There are other 4th Royal Scots entries that have standard company names "C" or "D" Company etc but can't make out what Haggart's is? FindMyPast Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 (edited) Looks like No. (For number) then 2s. In the longer list there is a No. 1 Sup and a No. 4 Supply. Edited 21 August , 2023 by Gardenerbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 21 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2023 4 minutes ago, Gardenerbill said: Looks like No. (For number) then 2s. In the longer list there is a No. 1 Sup. Thanks Gardenerbill I thought No 2 Also but why would other 4/RS men be entered as D or C Coy? Where are you seeing "No. 1 Sup." and what does that mean? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 (edited) Case 592 is No. 1 Sup and 599 is No. 4 Supply. Sorry not sure what this means beyond the obvious Number 2 Supply Company. Edited 21 August , 2023 by Gardenerbill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 21 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2023 8 minutes ago, Gardenerbill said: Case 592 is No. 1 Sup and 599 is No. 4 Supply. Sorry not sure what this means beyond the obvious Number 2 Supply Company. Ah ok thanks again. Welcome any other suggestions. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 21 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2023 Did Companies have their own supply columns? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 Can only suggest looking at the battalion diaries to see if they mention Supply Companies. Incidently, the bracket like things around the 5&4 seem to indicate his number was actually 4560 as per MIC. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 21 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2023 1 hour ago, TEW said: Can only suggest looking at the battalion diaries to see if they mention Supply Companies. Incidently, the bracket like things around the 5&4 seem to indicate his number was actually 4560 as per MIC. TEW Thanks TEW, yes should be 4560. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 Could it be a supernumary company ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 I don't think so, one of the entries (599) definitely says supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 (edited) I meant supplementary I think!! Well, I was thinking of this thread even if I cannot spell. https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/304006-what-is-a-super-company/#comment-3203966 Edited 21 August , 2023 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 21 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2023 1 hour ago, charlie962 said: Could it be a supernumary company ? I think that could be it Charlie962. As in this record Click Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 (edited) Not sure whether this helps, Mike. It's from The Scotsman of 30 July 1915 and Hawick Express of 3 September 1915 (British Newspaper Archive). Edited 21 August , 2023 by Chris_Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 (edited) Am I right that Supernumerary Companies (which existed) were sometimes incorrectly referred to as Supplementary Companies? Eg the Herefordshire Regimental Museum site has this: Supplementary Coy Battalions could form Supplementary Companies and The Herefordshire Regiment did this in Autumn 1914. These companies were formed from men who had had previous military service either: Regular, Rifle Volunteers or Militia, who were deemed unfit for active service. Volunteers for the Supplementary Company had served with the Kings Shropshire Light Infantry in India as well as other regular units. They had also served with the Militia and Rifle Volunteers. Many were elderly and they were accepted as volunteers but were discharged as unfit for further service when the medical standards were more strictly adhered to. They undertook duties in the UK such as key point guards and prisoner of war camp guards. Men from the Herefordshire Supplementary Company undertook PoW guard duties on the Isle of Man. Most, if not all members were transferred to the Royal Defence Corps (RDC). Edited 21 August , 2023 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 21 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2023 (edited) Thanks Chris and Charlie. If you go six minutes into this film The Freedom of Aberfeldy filmed in 1943 you will see an old one-armed fisherman. Apparently he could tie fish flies with one hand. The gentleman is Peter Haggart and he was very well-known locally and quite a character. The local lore is that he lost an arm in action somewhere. The Private 4560 Peter Haggart of the 1/4th Royal Scots is the soldier most likely to be him as far as I can work out but cannot be certain. If it is him, he received a Silver War Badge discharged 14/6/1918 at the age of 39. Mike Edited 21 August , 2023 by Skipman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 21 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2023 Pension Ledger Card proves it's the correct soldier. Did these supernumerary companies serve overseas or would he be posted to the 4th battlion proper once overseas? Pte Alexander Menzies 4559/201351 Disembarked Alexandria 1/4th Royal Scots 1/11/1916 and joined battalion Bir Ganadil on 8/11/1916 Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 21 August , 2023 Share Posted 21 August , 2023 7 hours ago, Skipman said: Private 4560 Peter Haggart of the 1/4th Royal Scots is the soldier most likely to be him as far as I can work out but cannot be certain. Under his TF renumber the nok address fits: Forename P Surname Haggart Casualty Status Wounded Service Number 201352 Regiment Royal Scots Category Wo's, Nco's and Men Home Town / Place of Enlistment Aberfeldy Daily List Date 21st November 1917 (Daily Casualty List on the Genealogist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 22 August , 2023 Author Share Posted 22 August , 2023 Thank again Charlie962 Had forgotten about the Genealogist cancelled subscription years ago. Anything on it we can't get elsewhere? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 22 August , 2023 Share Posted 22 August , 2023 3 hours ago, Skipman said: Thank again Charlie962 Had forgotten about the Genealogist cancelled subscription years ago. Anything on it we can't get elsewhere? Mike Their indexing of casualty lists is good and easy to search although it doesn't go as late as the later 1918/9 lists on NLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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