Anzac Patrol Corps

[stevenbecker]

Mates,

A strange one found in the service record of this AIF soldier

I've been doing this a long time but I have never hear or seen this in any other records so far?

WALKER    Daniel    2762    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (158) Tos 12-15 to Anzac Patrol Corps 4-16 to France 5-16 to 27Co 4 Div Trn 7-16 T/att 50Bn 11-17 F&B to 1914 leave in UK 1-19 disch in UK (Canadian 102nd Regt (Rocky Mountain Rangers) TF 5 years) AKA Daniel Smith Walker brother Rupert AASC

Hope you have better luck

[aconnolly]

Steve - never seen it in an NZEF record or reference either.  Could it be a typo and meant to refer to petrol supply in the Div Train?

Andrew

[stevenbecker]

Mate,

Yes thats what I thought it maybe a typo, but the record, his personal file, clearly shows Anzac Patrol Corps?

There were many new units being formed for the AIF around at that time, but not a Patrol corps?

The man around him with at that date, show either 1 LH Bde Supply Sect and or 1 LH Bde HQ

His brother soldiers in the 1st Reinf are a mixed bag

BADIOR    Robert William    2754    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (157) Tos NZ&A Div Trn 10-15 (G) rtn 12-15 att WFF 1-16 to 4 Div Base depot 5-16 to 4 ADBD Havre 8-16 to 14Co AASC 4 Div Trn 10-16 WIA 2-11-16 fractured fibular accident possibly during move to Vignacourt rtn 6-17 to hosp (VD) 8-17 rtn 11-17 T/att 4 DAC 11-17 att 4 Div Salvage Co 4-18 rtn 9-18 F&B RTA 1914 leave later WWII Pte 12Bn VDC (Q209477) 

CAVE    Arthur    2755    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (163) remain Egypt att WFF 1-16 to HQ/AASC Anzac MD 7-16 to ACo/CTC at Samalut 8-16 to HCo/CTC 8-16 to 4 LHTR 10-16 to AASC Trg depot Parkhouse UK 11-16 to 2 DSC 8-17 to 24 DSC 8-17 to AASC Base Depot Havre 8-17 to 26Co AASC 4 Div Trn 9-17 att HQ 4 Div Trn 3-18 rtn 6-18 F&B to 1914 leave in UK 11-18 disch in UK AKA Arthur Frederick Cave later WWII Pte 17Bn VDC (Q106887) 

CAVE    James    2756    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (162) (G) rtn rear Dtls Egypt 5-15 to hosp (VD) 8-15 rtn 10-15 to 4Co 1 Div Trn att Comp AASC att WFF 12-15 to 14Co 4 Div Trn 3-16 to hosp (influ - bronchitis) 6-16 rtn 7-16 to hosp (bronchits) 2-17 rtn 2-17 to hosp (rheum) 3-17 F&B to AIF depot (2 com) Hurdcott UK 4-17  to AASC Trg depot Parkhouse UK 8-17 to hosp (myalgia) 10-17 RTA MU cardiac disch 4-9-18 married Eunice Todd at Liverpool UK 11-6-17

HENDRY    George    2757    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (164) Tos 8-15 remain Egypt to hosp (mumps - influ) 2-16 rtn 3-16 att HQ AASC Anzac MD 4-16 to 8 MVS 5-16 to hosp (gastro) 5-17 to AAVC Dtls 7-17 rtn 8 MVS 8-17 to 36Co AASC Aust MDT 1-18 to hosp (malaria) 6-18 to AASC Trg unit 8-18 RTA 1914 leave 

LOWREY    Francis Charles    2759    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (156) Tos 10-15 att NZ&A Div Trn 10-15 rtn 12-15 (G) att WFF 2-16 to HQ ASC Anzac MDT 5-16 to hosp (epididymitis) 9-16 rtn 9-16 to ASC Trg depot 7-17 to hosp (adentitis) 8-17 rtn 8-17 to Cpl 38Co (998Co) AASC Aust MDT 8-17 RTA 1914 leave

LARGE    Alexander Harold    2760    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (166) to 4Co 1 Div Trn att Comp AASC 12-15 to (15 BGH) hosp (enteric) 12-15 rtn 1-16 to 14Co AASC 3-16 to AASC Trg depot 5-16 to 4 ADBD Etaples 5-16 T/att AMTS Chelsea UK 8-16 to 1 Entr Bn 12-16 rtn 4Co 1 Div Trn 3-17 F&B to AIF depot (4 com) Codford UK 9-17 RTA MU debility disch 2-5-18 MU Ex 9Bn (856) DNE disch 5-9-14 MU (Boer War Cape Mounted Rifles (3060) 6 years) 

CALLOW    Francis Robert    2764    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (160) (G) rtn rear Dtls Egypt 5-15 att WFF 1-16 revert to Pte to 1 LH Bde Sup Sect 3-16 to 2 ADBD Etaples 6-16 to 16Co AASC 2 Div Trn 6-16 to Dvr 6-17 T/att 17Co 8-18 F&B RTA 1914 leave later WWII Pte 1 Garr Bn (Q186766) to L/Cpl 2/1 Forestry Co RAE in UK (QX7244) 

HAWES    Edwin George    2765    LCpl Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) to A Troop BSqn/01 LHR (662) 4-15 (P) to T/Cpl (from kelly or Kiley WIA) 8-15 revert 8-15 to T/Cpl (from ward) 8-15 to hosp (1 LHFA) (dysentry) 9-15 rtn 9-15 revert to L/Cpl Mudros 11-15 (G) to Cpl (from mcgregor) 1-16 att WFF to L/Sgt (from kingsford) 8-16 revert 9-16 to T/L/Sgt (from kingsford) 2-17 to T/Sgt (from young) 6-17 revert 7-17 to L/Sgt (from kingsford) to T/Sgt (from mitchell) 11-17 to Sgt 1 LHTR 1-18 rtn 5-18 T/att (Gas course) Div Gas school Richon 8-18 to hosp (carbuncle) 9-18 RTA 1914 leave disch 24-1-19 (Boer War ASqn/NSWMR) (D Troop ASqn/1 LH (Central Qld) CMF 12 years later WWII Pte 14 Garr Bn/1 Garr Bn (Q90904)

HART    Daniel Edmund    2766    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (159?) (not identified)

BOURKE    Harrison James    2781    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (165) (G) rtn rear Dtls Egypt 5-15 att WFF 1-16 att 1 LH Bde HQ 4-16 att Anzac MDT 5-16 to hosp (hernia) reported after being thrown from horse 7-16 RTA MU hernia disch 9-10-16 (not on emb roll) later WWII L/Cpl 6 Sup Pers Co AASC (V83370) 

WALKER    Daniel    2762    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (158) Tos 12-15 to Anzac Patrol Corps 4-16 to France 5-16 to 27Co 4 Div Trn 7-16 T/att 50Bn 11-17 F&B to 1914 leave in UK 1-19 disch in UK (Canadian 102nd Regt (Rocky Mountain Rangers) TF 5 years) AKA Daniel Smith Walker brother Rupert AASC

WILSON    Harold    2763    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    1R (5Co AASC) (161) to (1 AGH) hosp (sore throat) 5-15 rtn 5-15 Tos 10-15 to NZ&A Div Trn 10-15 (G) rtn 12-15 to Dvr SHQ ASqn/01 LHR (161a) 4-16 WIA 4-8-16 shoulder & L/knee shrapnel in fighting at Romani to 1 LHTR 9-16 rtn A Sqn 11-16 to hosp (gastro - influ) 6-17 rtn 7-17 WIA 31-10-17 L/thigh bomb in air attack reported when A Ech Transport was bombed by two planes which killed 1 man with 1 officer & 8 men wounded at Beersheba RTA wounded 6 months change disch 5-3-18 (CCo/7 IR (Moreton) CMF 1 year) 
 

[aconnolly]

Steve - no establishment order for "Patrol" in the NZEF orders index December 1915 to end of war

Andrew

[frev]

Steve - found another one - so it seems it was a Corps - though perhaps only temporary?

James Drummond SWASBRICK: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=8096555

Cheers, Frev

[stevenbecker]

Cheers Frev,

Yes on rechecking my DB I also had him recorded, should have did a search?

SWASBRICK    James Drummond    135    Dvr    1 LH Bde Trn    5Co AASC (G) att WFF 2-16 to Aust patrol Corps 4-16 to 1 Trg Bn (3Bn) UK 10-16 to BCo/13Bn 10-16 F&B reported MIA killed on German wire at Bullecourt NKG listed on Villers Bretonneux Memorial France (Albury 4Bty CMF 3 years) brothers David 4 LHR and William 2Bn

I'll check more of the 5Co AASC to see if I missed any more.

[michaeldr]

This is a long-shot, but … …

both Walker & Swasbrick were drivers and transferred to the Anzac Patrol Corps in  April 1916:
so, is there any chance that in April 1916 when a new unit was being set up, there was an element of confusion over its name to be used in the records?

I thinking here of the Light Car Patrols formed in March 1916 by Lynden-Bell which Ian Alexander mentions at https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/240603-lamb-lcp-units/ and which Australians joined shortly after the original Yeomanry formation

 

[stevenbecker]

Yes I was looking at a number of options like the Provo Corps and Postal Corps that was also increasing at that time.

But there files are clearly Aust Patrol Corps?

The Aust Arm Car Sect arrived on the books around Aug 1916

JAMES    Ernest Homewood        Lt    Arm Car Sect    HQ t/att 3 LHTR 8-16 to Minia 8-16 prom Capt 15-11-16 renamed 1 Light Car Patrol (LCP) 12-16 prom Capt 1 Light Car Patrol (LCP) 1-17 MC - for his actions during the war + Bar to MC - for his actions outside Aleppo 24/25-10-18 MVO - reason not stated Ex Motor MG Corps (1 Vic IR to 5 IR 1-7-03 to UL 28-8-11 to 38 Fort Co Sub Miners AE 1-4-15 CMF 16 years rtn Capt 1-1-20 to UL 1-4-24 VD)

Its a Mystery rapped in ig --

[aconnolly]

There is a reference in Rolls, "Steel Chariots of the Desert" to Australians accompanying him on an expedition to  Wadi Saal in the Western Desert in mid 1916.  It's literally a single sentence but might well support Michael's point above.

 

[stevenbecker]

Mate,

Yes you had me chasing my copy of Roll's book to double check.

While he may say that, he was refering to the Aussie Troops station around his unit, not the then Aust Armoured Car Section that hadn't arrived as yet.

There were a number of Camel Corps Companies that co-op with the British Armoured Cars in many of the Oasis along the Western Front around then

As well as the 1 LH Bde group of units including the 5Co AASC 1 LH Bde Train.

The ALCP came into being in Dec 1916 changing its name from the Arm Car Sect

But all ideas are welcome to check on.

S.B

[aconnolly]

Steve - does this help?

Gullett in offical history of AIF VOL VII , chapter 5 regarding the return of the Light Horsemen from Gallipoli states:  "The 4th Regiment was reduced to two squadrons, one of which together with the whole of the 13th Regiment was sent to as corps mounted troops to France, while the remaining squadron was for a time attached to an Imperial Service brigade doing special patrol duty against Turkish spies and agents upon the Egyptian side of the canal. The 11th (Queensland and South Australia) and 12th (New South Wales) Regiments served until early 1917 as detached units"

Andrew

Edited 29 August , 2023 by aconnolly
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[stevenbecker]

Interesting, Both Regts were in limbo following there return from Anzac.

The 4 LH Bde had been disbanded and they had no Bde HQ and were attached to other Bdes for admin.

Both Regts by April still had not received all there horses and the ones they had were being swapped between Sqns to carry out duties, like escorts 

The 12 LHR moved to No 2 Osis camp at Helepolis in April, while the 11 LHR was moved to Tel el Kebir

From these areas they were broken up into work parties, as no one wanted them

Both War Dairies don't mention any thing like a Aust Patrol Corps, or Special Patrol duty looking for spies, at lest during March and April 1916