Medal Group Enamel Badges

[Gardenerbill]

I acquired this medal group and badges from a family member, they belonged to my Father-in-law's grandfather. 
I would like to know more about the badges and would appreciate any information that forum pals can provide.

1. Better Ole L&M Squad enamel badge

 

2. King George V Silver Lapel badge

(Don't know why this is upside down the original isn't?)

3. Also the small ribbons: colours are Blue, Silver, Green, Maroon, Gold and Black.

[travers61]

30 minutes ago, Gardenerbill said:

 

I acquired this medal group and badges from a family member, they belonged to my Father-in-law's grandfather. 
I would like to know more about the badges and would appreciate any information that forum pals can provide.

1. Better Ole L&M Squad enamel badge

 

 

This is the only reference I could find in the index to the British Newspaper Archive, but looks like a match if your relative lived in Cheshire.

.. DINNER OF THE BETTER 'OLE SQUAD” effort recapture that feeling good which existed during war an association of ex-service has been formed Linotype and Machinery Limited to-day the membership 250 This association known the L& M ’Ole Squad ...

Alderley & Wilmslow Advertiser 15 November 1935 

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=better ole squad&retrievecountrycounts=false

also

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Linotype_and_Machinery

Travers

Edited 9 August , 2023 by travers61

[Gardenerbill]

Thank you Travers, that's brilliant. The medal recipient lived in Altrincham and worked at the Linotype factory in Broadheath.

[Matlock1418]

40 minutes ago, Gardenerbill said:

King George V Silver Lapel badge

= Silver War Badge - For King and Empire Services Rendered - for men honorably discharged for some reason - commonly wound(s) or ill-health/unfitness [latter not necessarily due to service]

Number on back is the badge number but should be linkable to the recipient.

M

[Gardenerbill]

Thanks Matlock, he suffered a GSW to the face we believe in the Boer War.

[Gardenerbill]

However as it's a George V badge then the GSW must have been in WW1.

[Matlock1418]

Should you wish - If you publish the SWB Badge number then I feel sure other members will be able to track and see to whom when issued [with a likely indication of W[ounds] or S[ickness]/Disease]

M

2 minutes ago, Gardenerbill said:

However as it's a George V badge then the GSW must have been in WW1.

That's when the SWB was typically issued.

WFA/Fold3 may have disability pension records for the man - his name and other details off his medals would assist.

M

Edited 9 August , 2023 by Matlock1418
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[Gardenerbill]

Thanks again Matlock, I know who the medal recipient is and I plan to do the research myself, if I post the name on here, well meaning forum pals will do it all for me.

[Matlock1418]

1 minute ago, Gardenerbill said:

Thanks again Matlock, I know who the medal recipient is and I plan to do the research myself, if I post the name on here, well meaning forum pals will do it all for me.

That's OK - we don't want to spoil your fun of the chase.

Once you have done your stuff [always nice to get an update] and/or need any assistance you know where we are.

Good luck.

M

[Gardenerbill]

I think the ribbons may be from a greetings card, they are quite narrow and similar in colours to this example on the Boer War Forum:

Link to the original image:

 

https://www.angloboerwar.com/forum/13-miscellany/26560-south-african-war-veterans-association-1899-1902-badges

[Gardenerbill]

 

This is my wife's Great Grandfather 27407 Trooper Henry William George Cropps to whom the medals and badges belonged. He was born Henry William George Crapp 29th April 1882 Thomas St Sumner Rd Peckham, Camberwell, Surrrey.  At some point in the 1890s the family moved to Derby and in 1900 he joined the Army serving with the 104th Company Imperial Yeomanry in the Boer War. When he married in April 1907 he had left the Army and was living in Droylsden Manchester working as a Grinder and his name had been changed to Cropps.

At the start of the Great War, In October 1914 he re-enlisted with the Derbyshire Yeomanry (service number 2076), serving in Egypt, Gallipoli and Salonika. In October 1918 he was transferred to the Labour Corps (service number 672809) and was awarded the 1914-15 Star, British War medal, Victory medal and the Silver War Badge. 

After the war he worked at the Linotype and Machinery factory Broadheath Altrincham and lived near by on Norman Road. He died aged 88 11th October 1970 in Cranford Lodge hospital Knutsford.

The photograph appears to have been taken in 1914, his QSA medal ribbon can be seen above his left breast pocket. There is a family legend that he was shot in the face through his mouth, but it is not known whether this happened in the Boer War or the Great War, in the picture there appears to be a line above his mouth on the right hand side as we look at it that could be a scar. His Silver War badge was awarded for sickness March 1919 possibly influenza. According to my Father-in-law he was a real character and once had a pet Monkey.

 

[john_alty]

The 1939 Register has him doing his bit in WW2 as a full-time ARP Warden.

[Gardenerbill]

Thanks John, that's brilliant, Violet and Albert are two of their children. My father-in-law will be delighted.

[charlie962]

Derbyshire Advertiser 21/2/1902

[Gardenerbill]

Thanks Charlie, could confirm the wound story.

[Gardenerbill]

Finally the mounted group.

 

[Matlock1418]

On 24/12/2023 at 12:54, Gardenerbill said:

Finally the mounted group.

M