Manchester Regt near Beaumetz Les Loges - Rivière

[battle of loos]

good morning,

is it possible to itentify the exact battalion of the Manchester Regiment stationed in the Hameau de Bellacourt to the south-east of Beaumetz lès Loges?

because I found one:

- Manchester Regt badge cap

- Liverpool Regt tittle

and a remainder of title "T10"

Thank you in advance for your help.

regards

michel

[mancpal]

Michel, as you haven’t had any luck here yet I wonder if you have tried the Manchester Regiment forum? 
Simon

[battle of loos]

thank's for your answer.

regards

michel

[chaz]

as a quick check , always worth looking on CWGC . 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/search-results/?Surname=&Forename=&Initials=&ServiceNum=&Regiment=Manchester+Regiment&RegimentExact=true&Cemetery=BELLACOURT+MILITARY+CEMETERY%2c+RIVIERE&CemeteryExact=true&CountryCommemoratedIn=null&Unit=&Rank=&SecondaryRegiment=&SecondaryUnit=&AgeOfDeath=0&DateDeathFromDay=1&DateDeathFromMonth=January&DateDeathFromYear=&DateDeathToDay=1&DateDeathToMonth=January&DateDeathToYear=&DateOfDeath=&Honours=null&AdditionalInfo=&Tab=&Page=1

other cemeteries  in the area may turn up others or confirm the same.

[battle of loos]

Good evening
I hadn't thought of this track.
Thank you for the reply.

michel

[mancpal]

I wouldn’t have thought of it either. All I can add is that I don’t recall the 21st or 22nd being in that sector based on reading the war diaries (admittedly a while back).

You may already know that the 16th-19th battalions were half of what were the Manchesters Pals though after the Somme countless reinforcements replaced the lost and thus heavily diluted the original ‘pals’.

It would be interesting to know which Kings Liverpool Regiment battalions were in the area and when.

Simon

[chaz]

Simon

using the same format 18 recorded Liverpool burials, 1/10 and labour company took the major losses. both cases in the area 1916 and 1918

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/search-results/?Surname=&Forename=&Initials=&ServiceNum=&Regiment=The+King's+(Liverpool+Regiment)&RegimentExact=true&CountryCommemoratedIn=null&Cemetery=BELLACOURT+MILITARY+CEMETERY%2c+RIVIERE&CemeteryExact=true&Unit=&Rank=&SecondaryRegiment=&SecondaryUnit=&AgeOfDeath=0&DateDeathFromDay=1&DateDeathFromMonth=January&DateDeathFromYear=&DateDeathToDay=1&DateDeathToMonth=January&DateDeathToYear=&DateOfDeath=&Honours=null&AdditionalInfo=&Tab=&Page=1

[chaz]

this goes back to my collecting medals to great uncle, 3 lines in the war diary for his regiment. another regiment at the same time is another in my collection and his regiment diary has a page full. this has interested me and using the search I now know who from the 2 regiments are in which cemetery.  and you can expand from there.using the CWGC gives insight into which regiments were there

[mancpal]

Good advice, thanks.

Many years ago I took my wife on a job in France. On the way back I took a rural route home and stopped on a lane and pointed to a field and told her that’s where her GF went over on 1/7/16. I’d taken a copy of his original trench map with me but the real conformation lay in the surrounding cemeteries that bore many men of the QWR.

Simon

[battle of loos]

Good evening
I will work on the diarys of the Manchester and Liverpool battalions mentioned above.
Thank you for your opinions.

michel

Edited 31 July , 2023 by battle of loos