Mess Tin

[battle of loos]

Good evening,

What is the model of this individual bowl.
What is more than the current model is the number of additional passers-by.

2 passers (front & back)

 

 2 passers-by (front & back) + 2 additional passers-by (1 on each side)

thank's for your help.

regards

michel

[Mk VII]

There were commercial versions of this as well (probably for the Volunteers) so we expect to see some variations.

[Pete_C]

The two loops fitted to the side of the pan identify the (relic) mess-tin as a component of the 1870 Pattern Valise Equipment. The pattern initially appeared in the 1874 edition of Fitting Valise Equipment. The side loops were to enable the tin to be strapped to the valise without the use of a cover. In 1878 the two side loops were removed, one was added to the back of the pan and an oilskin cover was provided. In this form it continued in service until after the Great War. At some point following the end of the war the front and back loops were also deleted with the tin continuing in service until the late 1930's.

Pete

source - Soldiers Accoutrements of the British Army 1750-1900, Pierre Turner 

 

[battle of loos]

Good evening
wonderful.
A big thank you for your detailed answer and in pictures.

michel

[Andrew Upton]

6 hours ago, Pete_C said:

The two loops fitted to the side of the pan identify the (relic) mess-tin as a component of the 1870 Pattern Valise Equipment. The pattern initially appeared in the 1874 edition of Fitting Valise Equipment. The side loops were to enable the tin to be strapped to the valise without the use of a cover. In 1878 the two side loops were removed, one was added to the back of the pan and an oilskin cover was provided. In this form it continued in service until after the Great War. At some point following the end of the war the front and back loops were also deleted with the tin continuing in service until the late 1930's.

Pete

source - Soldiers Accoutrements of the British Army 1750-1900, Pierre Turner 

 

Pete - it's worth noting that the deletion of the two side loops on the mess tins doesn't appear to have been universally adopted throughout Britains colonies. Canada in particular seems to have manufactured them with the two loops right up until the end of the war (as per this 1918 example from my collection):

Edited 7 August , 2023 by Andrew Upton

[Pete_C]

15 minutes ago, Andrew Upton said:

Pete - it's worth noting that the deletion of the two side loops on the mess tins doesn't appear to have been universally adopted throughout Britains colonies. Canada in particular seems to have kept manufactured them with the two loops right up until the end of the war (as per this 1918 example from my collection):

That’s interesting Andrew, I wasn’t aware of that. It was only after posting that it occurred to me that an 1870 Pattern British tin, while having the side loops, should not also have a loop on the back, as is evident on the relic tin. On that basis I’d suggest the relic is more likely of Canadian / Colonial origin

Pete

Edited 7 August , 2023 by Pete_C

[battle of loos]

good morning,

Indeed, the sector from which it comes, did see the Canadians pass through in 1917.
Thanks again for your help and explanations.

michel