BillyH Posted 7 May , 2023 Share Posted 7 May , 2023 Attached is a clip from a medal roll for John Rye (Cheshire Regiment). I am reasonably good at using IRC records, but I cannot find him for the life of me. He wasn't taken prisoner in 1914 by the way, and he served right through to 1919 in the same regiment and same number of 7959. BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 7 May , 2023 Share Posted 7 May , 2023 Rye 7959 was reported wounded in the Daily Casualty Lists of 21/6/15 and again 19/9/17. A sergeant in both. As you are aware no doubt these lists generally appear about a month after actual wounding. I could find no trace of a pow but have you tried the NLS Casualty lists for late 1917 and1918? Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 7 May , 2023 Share Posted 7 May , 2023 I wonder whether the pow notation in the roll should be against Rothwell, the line above? In Daily Cas List 2/10/14, Rothwell was "unofficially reported wounded and prisoner". Just a thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 7 May , 2023 Author Share Posted 7 May , 2023 H 1 hour ago, charlie962 said: I wonder whether the pow notation in the roll should be against Rothwell, the line above? Rye's MIC also notes POW - BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 8 May , 2023 Share Posted 8 May , 2023 Rye's mic note was probably picked off the roll along with the other roll info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 8 May , 2023 Author Share Posted 8 May , 2023 8 hours ago, charlie962 said: Rye's mic note was probably picked off the roll along with the other roll info. I suspect you may be right Charlie. I picked up the casualty list for him in the local newspaper for June 1915, but cannot find the one in September 1917. Was it definitely Sept '17? (I presume you have FMP? I only have Ancestry). BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 8 May , 2023 Share Posted 8 May , 2023 Hi BillyH, 1 hour ago, BillyH said: but cannot find the one in September 1917 At the NLS it's here - link. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 8 May , 2023 Share Posted 8 May , 2023 4 minutes ago, clk said: Hi BillyH, At the NLS it's here - link. Regards Chris Is there anything later hinting at pow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 8 May , 2023 Share Posted 8 May , 2023 Unfortunately, I only got the one 'hit' using "7959 Rye Cheshire", as above - nothing for being reported as a PoW, nor a repatriation. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 8 May , 2023 Share Posted 8 May , 2023 23 minutes ago, clk said: Unfortunately, I only got the one 'hit' using "7959 Rye Cheshire", as above - nothing for being reported as a PoW, nor a repatriation. Regards Chris So none of us can find anything. Frustrating because we know there can be gaps in the reports accessible. However does start to look like an error... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 8 May , 2023 Share Posted 8 May , 2023 There was a Richard Rye 7340 of the 1st Cheshire's who was pow. Clutching at straws a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 8 May , 2023 Author Share Posted 8 May , 2023 Yes, I had found him myself. The straws are very thin though I still think your suggestion that the pow note on the medal roll was for the man named above him is the best bet. I don't believe he was a pow. BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 10 May , 2023 Share Posted 10 May , 2023 Fold3 has... Full Name Rye, J Age 26 Index Number of Admission 11979 Rank Name Sergeant Service Number 7959 Years Service 10 years Ailment Bullet wound thumb Date of Admission for Original Ailment 21 May 1915 Date Transferred to Sick Convoy 21 May 1915 Notes written in Observations Column Transferred to No.8 Casualty Clearing Station Bailleul. Religion Roman Catholic Regiment Cheshire Regiment Battalion 1st Battalion Other unit info A Company Archive Reference MH106/14 Conflict Period World War I Served for United Kingdom George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 10 May , 2023 Author Share Posted 10 May , 2023 Thanks George, I do have that record. BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 10 May , 2023 Share Posted 10 May , 2023 On 07/05/2023 at 22:37, charlie962 said: In Daily Cas List 2/10/14, Rothwell was "unofficially reported wounded and prisoner". He doesn‘t appear in the RC records either or I can‘t find him. On 08/05/2023 at 13:32, charlie962 said: There was a Richard Rye 7340 of the 1st Cheshire's who was pow. Taken in August 1914 Charlie2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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