8th Bn Lincolnshire Regt

[mikesal]

I have information from the Medal Card and the CWGC for one of my ancestors:

CROWN, Stanley Ralph No 42778 8th Bn Lincolnshire Regt (Died 25/08/1918, name on Vis-en-Artois Memorial). The Medal Card also refers to The Queens Regt No 157068.

Could anyone do a SDGW look-up to see if there is any more information about him? Does anyone have any ideas (from his regiments and numbers) about his possible service career?

Woutl appreciate any help on this.

[KONDOA]

Born - Mileham, Norfolk

Enlisted - Attleboruogh, Lincs

Resident - Market Harborough, Northants.

KIA

Roop

[Stebie9173]

As mentioned on the top of the Soldiers Forum, the section of the Mother website, the Long, Long Trail called Grandads War is recommended to start you research.

However, to help you:

This is the page for the Lincolnshire Regiment.

http://www.1914-1918.net/lincolns.htm

Regiments did not usually fight together, only as battalions as part of Brigades, then Divisions.

The 8th Lincolnshire Regiment were in the 63rd Brigade, 21st Div to 8-7-1916:

http://www.1914-1918.net/21div.htm

The only major battle the 8th LR would have been involved in before transferred was Loos.

and thereafter in the 37th Division

http://www.1914-1918.net/37div.htm

These pages show the major battles the Division was involved in. Brigades and individual Battalions would not necessarily have taken part in all of them....

His date of death was just after the Battle of Albert, on the Somme, as the Allies pushed the Germans back through Picardy.

The Queens Regiment were the Royal West Surrey's, part of the London Regiment.

http://www.1914-1918.net/queens.htm

Presumably this was his first regiment. If you have downloaded his MIC card it MAY say what Battalion he was in.

Otherwise, the Medal Rolls referred to on the MIC will more likely, but not certainly, state his Battalion. Otherwise you may find his service record but less than half survive.

Both Medal Rolls and Service records are filed at the National Archives at Kew and are not online.

The only certain way you can tell when he transferred is from his service records.

Also, if you attach a copy of the MIC it may help us...

Hope this helps,

Steve

[Stebie9173]

From Census 1901

Stanley Crown ,age 2, born Mileham, Norfolk, Living in Mileham.

Son of:

William Crown, 44, born Beetley, Norfolk, Gamekeeper

and Harriet R Crown, 45, also born Beetley

Siblings:

Albert (19, Groom & Gardener), Eva (14), Jessie (11), Mabel (9), all born Beetley.

Claude (6), born Mileham.

Stanley Ralph Crown, Birth registration March qtr 1899 in Mitford district, Norfolk, 4b-275

"Britiff" Claud (no 'e') Crown, birth registration Dec 1894, Mitford, 4b-275

Albert Clifford Crown, birth registration Dec qtr 1881 in Mitford, 4b-265

Also for Eva Agnes, Sep 1886; Jessie Priscilla Sep 1889; Mable Emma Sep 1891, all Mitford district.

William Crown, born June qtr 1856, Mitford, 4b-285, married June qtr 1879, to Harriet Adcock, 4b-459

(Census info available on William's parents and siblings, if you want it...)

Claude's medal card:

http://www.documentsonline.nationalarchive...1&resultcount=1

Hope this is also of use,

Steve.

PS If you don't want this as a public posting I can edit it out...

[jim_davies]

Hi,

I would suggest that based on the service number, Stanley was a late 1917/early 1918 entrant to the Lincs Regt.

The whole group of 42***, all seem to be transfers to the Lincs from other regts.

Stanley was killed during the battalion's part in the capture of Bapaume.

Here's an abridged version of their war diary:

http://www.eebo.freeserve.co.uk/8thbatt.htm

Jim

[mikesal]

Born - Mileham, Norfolk

Enlisted - Attleboruogh, Lincs

Resident - Market Harborough, Northants.

KIA

Roop

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Thanks for this information, the born Mileham confirms that he is 'my' Stanley Crown

[mikesal]

Thanks for prompt replies. I already have the census information on the family and 1914-1918.net info on the regiments but the SDGW confirms he's the right person (born Mileham) and the suggested implication of his service numbers is interesting.

[Stebie9173]

Assuming he waited to the official age for overseas service of 19, his age would fit in with him transferring from a non-active battalion to an active battalion in early 1918.

Steve.

[mikesal]

Assuming he waited to the official age for overseas service of 19, his age would fit in with him transferring from a non-active battalion to an active battalion in early 1918.

Steve.

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Thanks, that's an interesting point - unfortunately his Medal Card doesn't indicate battalion numbers for either the Queens or Lincolns. However, the card only indicates award of the Victory and Briain medals, or date for entry to theatre of war.

Mike