8055Bell Posted 4 January , 2023 Share Posted 4 January , 2023 John Jackson served in the Dragoons ‘17829’ and MGC until his discharge on 26/02/1919. He received a pension for ‘Effect of pneumonia & Influenza’. He died from pulmonary TB on 20/11/1920, aged 23. Burial at Hollinwood Cemetery. The son of Nina Eleanor Jackson of 100 Stanley Road, Hollinwood. The cause of death and pension entitlement are not close enough to justify commemoration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 4 January , 2023 Share Posted 4 January , 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 8055Bell said: John Jackson served in the Dragoons ‘17829’ and MGC until his discharge on 26/02/1919. 101986, Machne Gun Corps = plenty of pension records at WFA, especially using this latter number For an unspecified condition he received a pension of 5/6 pw from 27-2-19to 2-9-19 [the 20% disability rate for a Classv / Pte soldier] - later identified as Effects of pneumonia and influenza, 20% Having died of of Disease / Pulmonary Tuberculosis the MoP gave his mother a pension under the Royal Warrant, Article 21 [so they must have though his death was attributed to service] but her pension was gradually reduced over 1923/24 having been Re-assessed under MPI 270 [I'm not sure what this Ministry of Pension Instruction 270 was but @ss002d6252 may perhaps be able to assist ??] Image thanks to WFA/Fold3 Her claim appeared DEAD 5.11.29 [probably ended before then] A Death Certificate would formally confirm the cause of his death - but if only with these MoP records would seem a struggle to get accepted at present. M Edited 4 January , 2023 by Matlock1418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 4 January , 2023 Share Posted 4 January , 2023 22 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said: Having died of of Disease / Pulmonary Tuberculosis the MoP gave his mother a pension under the Royal Warrant, Article 21 [so they must have though his death was attributed to service] but her pension was gradually reduced over 1923/24 having been Re-assessed under MPI 270 [I'm not sure what this Ministry of Pension Instruction 270 was but @ss002d6252 may perhaps be able to assist ??] MPI 270 was an instruction regarding the review of pensions in which a pre-war dependence was claimed. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 4 January , 2023 Share Posted 4 January , 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: MPI 270 was an instruction regarding the review of pensions in which a pre-war dependence was claimed. So were MoP backing away in this case? [gradually] M Edited 4 January , 2023 by Matlock1418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 4 January , 2023 Share Posted 4 January , 2023 1 minute ago, Matlock1418 said: So were MoP backing away in this case? [gradually] M They had identified a number of issues in cases, so were trying to review as many as possible. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 4 January , 2023 Share Posted 4 January , 2023 17 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: They had identified a number of issues in cases, so were trying to review as many as possible. Possible 'Dependance irregularities' might perhaps be part of our present difficulties with CWGC/JCCC, when now using Art 21 dependance awards [?? Art 11 too ??] given we don't have the full Awards files to assist us M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 5 January , 2023 Share Posted 5 January , 2023 17 hours ago, Matlock1418 said: Possible 'Dependance irregularities' might perhaps be part of our present difficulties with CWGC/JCCC, when now using Art 21 dependance awards [?? Art 11 too ??] given we don't have the full Awards files to assist us M It was more aimed at miscalculation in the rates paid, the dependence pension shouldn't have any effect on the man's entitlement as it was ancillary to that. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 January , 2023 Share Posted 5 January , 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, ss002d6252 said: It was more aimed at miscalculation in the rates paid, the dependence pension shouldn't have any effect on the man's entitlement as it was ancillary to that. Wasn't suggesting it might affect a man's entitlement to a disability pension beforehand. OK - so MPI 270 review was internal 'house-keeping' at MoP rather than a lack of proven prior dependance [of a dependant upon a now dead man] Causation of death and dependance and thus seems accepted by MoP in this case - so just a recalculation of the rate to Art 21 pension to be paid [and we can see this was done over a period of time in this case in steps] = If so, on those particular grounds, it seems it shouldn't really speciffically/generally affect whether non-comm(s) or not might be considered/accepted in such a case(s). M Edited 5 January , 2023 by Matlock1418 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 5 January , 2023 Share Posted 5 January , 2023 9 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said: Wasn't suggesting it might affect a man's entitlement to a disability pension beforehand. OK - so MPI 270 review was internal 'house-keeping' at MoP rather than a lack of proven prior dependance [of a dependant upon a now dead man] Causation of death and ependance and thus seems accepted by MoP in this case - so just a recalculation of the rate to Art 21 pension to be paid [and we can see this was done over a period of time in this case in steps] = If so, on those particular grounds, it seems it shouldn't really speciffically/generally affect whether non-comm(s) or not might be considered/accepted in such a case(s). M My comment was aimed elsewhere. No it shouldn't affect anything Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 5 January , 2023 Share Posted 5 January , 2023 3 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: My comment was aimed elsewhere. Understood! M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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