Patrick J. Clarke Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 Looking for a John Fleming, Co. Mayo. Not 3947L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 Any other clues please? Died. Birth date. Widow/Wife. Town/village/residence Thanks George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 Fleming John Private Connaught Rangers Ardnaree, Ballina, County Mayo 08/07/1918 Died at his home in Ardnaree, Ballina, County Mayo, from pulmonary tuberculosis 2 years certified. United Kingdom Book of Remembrance. Serial No: 3820 Unit: 3rd Battalion Age: 44 Born: Kilmore Moy, Ballina, County Mayo Enlisted: Galway Next of Kin: Son of Patrick Fleming, Ardnaree, Ballina, County Mayo. Father of Mary Kate, Patrck, John and Maria Fleming. Married Bridget Horkan, Ballina, County Mayo, in 1904. Grave or Memorial: Notes: Died after discharge. Discharged on 24/05/1915- no longer physically fit for war service-Tubercle of lung. Served in the Boer War. His records show he was born in 1882. Accepted for inclusion in the Commonwealth War Graves Commission and added to the database on 06/08/2021. https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/75464836/john-fleming/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 He's the same one I came up with but didn't want to jump in too early! Name: John Fleming Gender: Male Rank: Pte Record Type: Card Death Date: 8 Jul 1918 Service Number: 3820 Corps, Regiment or Unit: Connaught Rgrs. John Fleming Bridget Fleming Widow Mary Kate Fleming Child Patrick Fleming Children John Fleming Children Maria Fleming Children George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 What a team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 You helped me get this one accepted George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 Quite honestly I thought in unbelievable that the OP starts a thread with the bald "Looking for a John Fleming, Co. Mayo. Not 3947L " Tom may, or may not be right with this man, but there are lots that it might have been. Without any facts to hang an identification on, the identification cannot be proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 (edited) Tom Corisande I appreciate your comments and agree with you…but let us just bask a minute! George Edited 25 November , 2022 by George Rayner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick J. Clarke Posted 25 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2022 Would like to thank most sincerely those that replied to the post. I had not any info on this man and when writing my book on the war I did not come across him, although another John Fleming lost his life on the 13/11/1914, no. 3947, Connaught Rangers, and his brother Michael, no. 3950. I have been trying to find where he is buried, as there is a big cemetery in our town, but, so far, no trace. The information on the posts from your great researchers is outstanding. So, thanks again and if I find out where he is buried I will upload info. Cheers from Ballina, Co. Mayo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick J. Clarke Posted 25 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2022 I have since found out from his enlistment papers that he joined up in November, 15th, 1910, and that he was 28 years and 5 months. His regiment was the 3rd Battn. Connaught Rangers (Special Reservists). He was born in Kilmoremoy, Ballina, Co. Mayo. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 Correct Corisande. He is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 25 November , 2022 Share Posted 25 November , 2022 A wild schtab in the dark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 26 November , 2022 Share Posted 26 November , 2022 So P.J. Clarke old son, have we the right man you reckon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick J. Clarke Posted 26 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 26 November , 2022 Go maith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 26 November , 2022 Share Posted 26 November , 2022 That is Irish for right or correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 26 November , 2022 Share Posted 26 November , 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Patrick J. Clarke said: I have since found out from his enlistment papers that he joined up in November, 15th, 1910, and that he was 28 years and 5 months. His regiment was the 3rd Battn. Connaught Rangers (Special Reservists). He was born in Kilmoremoy, Ballina, Co. Mayo. Thanks again. He seems to have had service before 1910, if museumtom is correct regarding the service he mentions during the 2nd Boer War. Perhaps he served originally with a Connaught Rangers Militia Battalion that later became the 3rd Special Reserve Battalion. Before July 1881 the county had sustained two militia regiments, one each for North and South Mayo. Edited 26 November , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
museumtom Posted 26 November , 2022 Share Posted 26 November , 2022 Good one Frogsmile, great badges too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 26 November , 2022 Share Posted 26 November , 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, museumtom said: Good one Frogsmile, great badges too! Indeed the badges are very attractive. The two units eventually merged to form 3rd Militia Battalion the Connaught Rangers (the South Mayo remaining separate until 1889!) and as I suspected were embodied in support of the 2nd Anglo/Boer War between March 1900 and July 1901. To my surprise the 4th Militia Battalion (ex Co Galway) and 5th Militia Battalion (ex Co Roscommon) were also embodied, which was quite an extraordinary effort for a small regimental area such as that of the Connaught’s as a whole. NB. It’s clear that the Roscommon insignia played some part in the badges chosen for the Connaught Rangers re-creation as a Territorial based regiment in 1881 (although the regular 88th had, happily for the merger, worn very similar). Edited 26 November , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 26 November , 2022 Share Posted 26 November , 2022 (edited) On 25/11/2022 at 17:26, museumtom said: Fleming John Private Connaught Rangers Ardnaree, Ballina, County Mayo 08/07/1918 Died at his home in Ardnaree, Ballina, County Mayo, from pulmonary tuberculosis 2 years certified. United Kingdom Book of Remembrance. Serial No: 3820 Here is one of 3820, John FLEMING's widow and family's pension claim cards Image thanks to WFA/Fold3 Family details might perhaps help with burial [if in same grave] - I note another even younger John FLEMING On 25/11/2022 at 17:48, Patrick J. Clarke said: I had not any info on this man and when writing my book on the war I did not come across him, although another John Fleming lost his life on the 13/11/1914, no. 3947, Connaught Rangers, and his brother Michael, no. 3950. I have been trying to find where he is buried Interestingly there are another three pension card for both John/J, FLEMING, 4/3947 [DoW]. and Michael/M. FLEMING 3950 [KiA] - a female dependant with the same name and address: Mrs Bridget FLEMING, Ardnaree, Ballina, Co Mayo - mother - is recorded = One suspects it wouldn't have been particularly easy disentangling such similarly-named! Edit: It seems FLEMMING was an alternative spelling that has entered the MoP records and MIC M Edited 28 November , 2022 by Matlock1418 edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick J. Clarke Posted 27 November , 2022 Author Share Posted 27 November , 2022 Thanks vry much for info. The badges look great. Cheers everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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