BillyH Posted 20 October , 2022 Share Posted 20 October , 2022 The widow of a soldier who was killed in the war in 1917 later remarried and I cannot decipher her new surname - it looks a bit like Bourton to me? With her new address being given I wonder if any of the GWF sleuths can ascertain the surname for me? However, the lady in question (born 3.7.1892) was definitely not at that address in 1911 or 1939 - and I do not have access to the 1921 census. Her previous married surname was McLaughlin but I have been unable to find a marriage record using numerous variations of her new name of 'Bourton' A clipping from a pension ledger card is attached below. BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 To know the first husband's name may help us George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 You haven't been able to trace her from Bleasby Street Oldham either? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 29 minutes ago, George Rayner said: To know the first husband's name may help us Arthur McLaughlin #13761 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 21 October , 2022 Admin Share Posted 21 October , 2022 Doesn't appear to be at that address in the 1921 census Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 Arthur is recorded on 1911 census as 20 year old boarder but I think its brother to Jones,family born in Birkenhead. 1901 census surname Mcloughlin also at Birkenhead. birth registered 1891. he was ACC but Fold 3 has him as Airman died an observer in a RE8, they have an aditional name Capt B H Smith. was Capt Smith the pilot or an alias? there is a service record for Arthur Mclaughlin pearly war on Fold 3 married to Margaret Pugh 12.12.13. number W/483 , attested 3 Sept 1914, General Service Infantry (13th Cheshire Regt) , Unfit for further service. is any of this of use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 21 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 21 October , 2022 Thanks for the interest, but I did already know all of the above details (apart from the 1921 census info). However, no-one has commented on the main reason for this post (given in the title). What do we think the surname is - Bourton? Is the last letter an N or a W? Any other suggestions would be welcome and I can then search for a marriage for Margaret McLaughlin to B*? I have previously tried searching Ancestry and BMD for a marriage using wildcards without any luck. BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 Bointon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 21 October , 2022 Admin Share Posted 21 October , 2022 I don't think it is Boniton as FMP comes up with only 3 hits none seemingly relevant. Given the way the "r" is formed in "Hatherley Road" I would suggest Bourton - lots of potential hits on FMP for that one. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 I wonder if she gave her name as Pugh for her 2nd marriage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARABIS Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 It looks like Barstow or Borstow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 21 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 21 October , 2022 53 minutes ago, Bardess said: I wonder if she gave her name as Pugh for her 2nd marriage? I have tried that possibility endlessly, without success. BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 Bourton appears in the Bromley area around 1921 Births Mar 1921 (>99%) Bourton George H Bourton Bromley 2a 1057 Deaths Mar 1921 (>99%) Bourton George H 0 Bromley 2a 712 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 21 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 21 October , 2022 1 hour ago, davidbohl said: Bourton appears in the Bromley area around 1921 Births Mar 1921 (>99%) Bourton George H Bourton Bromley 2a 1057 Deaths Mar 1921 (>99%) Bourton George H 0 Bromley 2a 712 Thanks, but it looks as though it was an illegitimate birth (no mother's maiden name given). 1 hour ago, ARABIS said: It looks like Barstow or Borstow. Still nothing turning up. I think I will draw a line under this now, it isn't overly important but I hate to be beaten! BillyH, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWK Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 Pretty grand houses on Hatherley Road, Sidcup: https://boroughphotos.org/bexley/search-results/?fYear&fAreas&fThemes&fSearcher=hatherley And there's a Mrs Bourton (?) on Hatherley Road, looking for a parlourmaid in 1917? https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results/1917-01-01/1920-03-01?basicsearch=%2bhatherley %2bsidcup %2bbourton&exactsearch=false&retrievecountrycounts=false&sortorder=score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 Bourton was the name of the house From BNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 (edited) Well I never Well done David Ray Edit missed J.W.K 's post well done J.W.K Edited 21 October , 2022 by RaySearching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWK Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 Maybe Margaret was a parlourmaid in "Bourton", and it somehow got mixed up in the pension ledger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbohl Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 8 minutes ago, RaySearching said: Well done David Credit to JWK for digging about really Without the paper it would have been a lot of wasted effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 21 October , 2022 Share Posted 21 October , 2022 1 hour ago, JWK said: Maybe Margaret was a parlourmaid in "Bourton", and it somehow got mixed up in the pension ledger? I don't think it's necessarily mixed up, but it just depends how you read it. Confusing, certainly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 21 October , 2022 Author Share Posted 21 October , 2022 Thanks to all for sorting the 'Bourton' business out. Just out of idle curiosity I got the 1911 census out for 64 Hatherley Road and it was a 9 roomed house occupied by an elderly businessman with a housekeeper and a domestic servant. Probably fits the bill for the 1917 advert? BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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