Dave kellitt Posted 30 August , 2022 Share Posted 30 August , 2022 Hi all, I am looking to find some information about a man named arthur cant. I found his grave next to my uncles in cleethorpes cemetery and it says on his grave boyndie burn which im guessing was a naval battle. I found some brief information about him stating he was recruited as an engineer on a trawler or something. Would anyone be able to help with some more information about him and maybe be able to find a photo of him or his ship. I'm baffled and have hit a dead end. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 87 Posted 30 August , 2022 Share Posted 30 August , 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Dave kellitt said: Hi all, I am looking to find some information about a man named arthur cant. I found his grave next to my uncles in cleethorpes cemetery and it says on his grave boyndie burn which im guessing was a naval battle. I found some brief information about him stating he was recruited as an engineer on a trawler or something. Would anyone be able to help with some more information about him and maybe be able to find a photo of him or his ship. I'm baffled and have hit a dead end. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Dave Hello. Engineman Arthur Cant, ES 718, Royal Naval Reserve died on the 31st July 1918 aboard HM Drifter Boyndie Burn. Edited 30 August , 2022 by Gunner 87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busterfield Posted 30 August , 2022 Share Posted 30 August , 2022 A few bits. https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk/lifestory/7666142 https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/380130/a-cant/ https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8664316 Cause of death down as illness. National archives free to download. There is on the margin a sentence regarding death that my eyes struggle with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmroberts Posted 30 August , 2022 Share Posted 30 August , 2022 Boydie Burn is the name of the small vessel, a drifter on which he served. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 87 Posted 30 August , 2022 Share Posted 30 August , 2022 (edited) Dave, just to add to the records held at the NA Arthur was awarded the 1914-1915 Star, Victory Medal and British War Medal as listed on the attached Navel Medal and Award Rolls. I believe the 'WW' in the column for how the medals were issued or disposed of means to his War Widow. Arthur died on a hospital ship of pneumonia. Edited 30 August , 2022 by Gunner 87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave kellitt Posted 30 August , 2022 Author Share Posted 30 August , 2022 This is fantastic thank you. Do you know where I could possibly get any photo of him Thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 87 Posted 30 August , 2022 Share Posted 30 August , 2022 Newspapers are probably your best bet, an obituary for Arthur. I have just had a look through Find My Past and am unable to find any mention him either with the name of the vessel, his home town, being Leeds, or Banff where the Drifter was registered. If you sign up for the British Newspaper Archives I understand you can get a number of free views on any results and this site carries a greater number of publications than Find My Past. Lastly, regarding newspapers, the local paper may have an archive not on the BNA you could check There is also a large number of public family trees on Ancestry but none have an image of Arthur. If you were to subscribe, contacting the private family trees could also prove fruitful. Arthurs date of birth was the 17th November 1874. Hope that is of some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 87 Posted 30 August , 2022 Share Posted 30 August , 2022 Dave, FMP also hold the Register of Deceased Passengers listing HMHS Karapara as the vessel Arthur was admitted on to, the date being 31/07/18, his last abode HMS Zaria and that he was suffering from Double Acute Lobar Pneumonia. I will send you a pm regarding the document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 30 August , 2022 Share Posted 30 August , 2022 His widow, Elizabeth, managed a successful Alternative Pension Widow's [APW] - a bit higher than the standard rate for his rank - must have proved his higher pre-service income [16/4 pw extra was not to be sniffed at] Image courtesy of WFA/Fold3 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptage Posted 14 May , 2023 Share Posted 14 May , 2023 If there was a photo of him in the local newspapers, I would have it, as I photographed ALL photos that were submitted which were printed in the two Grimsby newspapers that were on the go during WW1 as part of my research. Sadly, his photo wasn't printed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave kellitt Posted 15 May , 2023 Author Share Posted 15 May , 2023 (edited) That's a shame I appreciate the help. I haven't had the chance to go to the archive I'm town to look. Could you have a look for a photo of John edward buttle if possible please. If I remember correctly he has an obituary from his wife Kate in late July 1916. I think It was July 31st in the grimsby news telegraph. Its the only other soldier I've been pursuing a photo of for some time. David Sorry I meant to reply to your post Edited 15 May , 2023 by Dave kellitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 87 Posted 15 May , 2023 Share Posted 15 May , 2023 45 minutes ago, Dave kellitt said: That's a shame I appreciate the help. I haven't had the chance to go to the archive I'm town to look. Could you have a look for a photo of John edward buttle if possible please. If I remember correctly he has an obituary from his wife Kate in late July 1916. I think It was July 31st in the grimsby news telegraph. Its the only other soldier I've been pursuing a photo of for some time. David Sorry I meant to reply to your post Hi David. This is an article from the 'Grimsby News' 28th July 1916. No photograph but hopefully of some interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temptage Posted 15 May , 2023 Share Posted 15 May , 2023 Unfortunately theres no photo of John Edward Buttle either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave kellitt Posted 16 May , 2023 Author Share Posted 16 May , 2023 I appreciate the help. This is a bit of a bummer but oh well. Is there an obituary for arthur cant. Off the top of my head he died in 1918. In early August. I know his wife was called Elizabeth so this should help. The only other way Is of getting photographs is by contacting the family directly on ancestry which I have done. I am waiting a response from both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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