i_malc Posted 17 August , 2022 Share Posted 17 August , 2022 I wonder if somebody help me with a couple of queries? My grandfather Robert Boyce 10727 lived in Coventry and joined up at the age of 16 in 1912. 1. Would he have gone straight into the 2nd Battalion Kings Royal Rifles Corps at Shorncliffe Kent or would he have to go for basic training first then to the battalion? 2. As he was one of the 70 or so underage riflemen who didn’t go to France with the 2nd Battalion (According to the war diaries of the 2nd Battalion KRRC) what would have happened to him from August 1914 until he was with the 4th Battalion KRRC in January 1915, as the 4th Battalion only arrived back in England in early December and didn’t embark to France with the main force in late December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 17 August , 2022 Share Posted 17 August , 2022 (edited) When he joined, did the Army know he was underage? I note a hospital admission for wounding in July(edit May) 1915 with 4 KRRC where his age is noted as 23!(edit 22) Edited 17 August , 2022 by charlie962 Specsavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan1892 Posted 17 August , 2022 Share Posted 17 August , 2022 (edited) Are you aware that he was admitted to No 3 Casualty Clearing Station on the 26 May 1915? He was transferred to the No 2 General Hospital suffering with a GSW Right Leg. His entry in the Admissions and discharge register shows that he was in the 4th KRRC; he was age 22 years; had been in the Army for 3 full years and 'in the field' for 5 full months - ties in with his MIC which states that he was in France by the 19 January 1915. He was then transferred to H S Asturias, on his way back to UK Edited 17 August , 2022 by Allan1892 to add image of HS Asturias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 17 August , 2022 Share Posted 17 August , 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, i_malc said: I wonder if somebody help me with a couple of queries? My grandfather Robert Boyce 10727 lived in Coventry and joined up at the age of 16 in 1912. 1. Would he have gone straight into the 2nd Battalion Kings Royal Rifles Corps at Shorncliffe Kent or would he have to go for basic training first then to the battalion? 2. As he was one of the 70 or so underage riflemen who didn’t go to France with the 2nd Battalion (According to the war diaries of the 2nd Battalion KRRC) what would have happened to him from August 1914 until he was with the 4th Battalion KRRC in January 1915, as the 4th Battalion only arrived back in England in early December and didn’t embark to France with the main force in late December Regarding question 1, if he definitely joined in 1912 then he would have reported to the [shared] ‘Rifles Depot’, where all regular recruits of the 60th KRRC and Rifle Brigade regiments received their basic training. The depot was large and continuously training sufficient recruits to feed 8 regular battalions (4 at home and 4 overseas with those at home trickle feeding those abroad). If he declared his age accurately, which was more likely prewar then he would have enlisted as a boy entrant in a specific category of either, music (band or bugles) or artisan (tailor or shoemaker) until he reached the age of 18, when he could switch to a rifle company if he wished. For further details see also: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/282905-krrc-new-recruit-and-basic-training/ Edited 17 August , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_malc Posted 17 August , 2022 Author Share Posted 17 August , 2022 Thanks for this info but I'm aware of this. He was born in 1896 in Cambridgeshire.His injury was on his left shoulder but there is confusion on his injury as the No3 clearing hospital put it as right shoulder and records from 11th ambulance train have his wrong details it shows his reg number as 16737 but his pension details are correct as the left shoulder. I’ve got him at home in 1915 in court for stealing a duck and for being AWL. I’m just trying to tie up a few loose ends while he was in the 2nd battalion. Thank you again for your reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 17 August , 2022 Share Posted 17 August , 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, i_malc said: Thanks for this info but I'm aware of this. He was born in 1896 in Cambridgeshire.His injury was on his left shoulder but there is confusion on his injury as the No3 clearing hospital put it as right shoulder and records from 11th ambulance train have his wrong details it shows his reg number as 16737 but his pension details are correct as the left shoulder. I’ve got him at home in 1915 in court for stealing a duck and for being AWL. I’m just trying to tie up a few loose ends while he was in the 2nd battalion. Thank you again for your reply To answer question 2 all the regular battalion (1st to 4th) boy entrants, whose terms and conditions of service I described, were on the outbreak of war posted to the Rifles Depot until they were old enough (usually 17 1/2) to join a Reserve Battalion, where they continued training until old enough to join an operational battalion in the field. Edited 17 August , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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