Plugstreet 14-18 Posted 16 November , 2023 Share Posted 16 November , 2023 Some Mills Plug N°5, some in Lead and light alloy and others in brass, some rare, even very rare, no fake all originel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrylee Posted 16 November , 2023 Share Posted 16 November , 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 16 November , 2023 Share Posted 16 November , 2023 An excellent collection Plugstreet. Yes all original and some very rare ones, Farrar and HM particularly hard to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank1612 Posted 6 April Share Posted 6 April Good day everyone I was recently at a flea market and found this. I thought is was a neat find but would like to know more about this. Can someone please tell me about it. Worth? Who made it? How old is it? Any info is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullybrone Posted 6 April Share Posted 6 April This may help - https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C222109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank1612 Posted 7 April Share Posted 7 April 7 hours ago, tullybrone said: This may help - https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C222109 Thanks! That's awesome information. Now seeing that this is a for of "old war history" is it legal to possess? Is there anything I should know? I don't want ATF knock at my door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 7 April Share Posted 7 April Your grenade was made by Morum & Co of London, at the Clock Tower Works in Lewisham in October 1917, so an early Mills No. 36. Yours has the wrong type of lever, but that can be easily changed. Nice find in good condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMLE1880 Posted 7 April Share Posted 7 April Good day everybody, I recently got a Mills base plate from a No 5 made of aluminum. It is stamped 12/15 and has a threaded hole in the middle, like a No. 23. I have never seen anything like it. What was the thread for at that time? Aluminum is probably not suitable for a rifle grenade. Many thanks for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14276265 Posted 7 April Share Posted 7 April (edited) From late 1915 experiments were conducted both at Home and in France with rifle launching of Mills grenades, and various other forms of projection were also trialled. Solid brass base plugs, suitably threaded, were specified for rod experiments, but that's not to say a few aluminium ones were not tried. It is also a possibility the plug shown was used for attaching one of the extension pieces used with the alternative gun launchers. Solid brass No.5 base plugs, typically dated 10-15 through 1-16, drilled and tapped, do turn up and often with a hole that is tapped to 5/16" true BSW - c.f. the standard rifle grenade thread of 9/32" 20 tpi BSW form. 265. Edited 7 April by 14276265 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMLE1880 Posted 8 April Share Posted 8 April Hello 14276265, That is a very interesting finding! I've been a collector for a long time and have read a lot on this topic, but this is something new for me :-) Thanks for the insight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geluveld Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April On 07/04/2024 at 19:46, 14276265 said: From late 1915 experiments were conducted both at Home and in France with rifle launching of Mills grenades, and various other forms of projection were also trialled. Solid brass base plugs, suitably threaded, were specified for rod experiments, but that's not to say a few aluminium ones were not tried. It is also a possibility the plug shown was used for attaching one of the extension pieces used with the alternative gun launchers. Solid brass No.5 base plugs, typically dated 10-15 through 1-16, drilled and tapped, do turn up and often with a hole that is tapped to 5/16" true BSW - c.f. the standard rifle grenade thread of 9/32" 20 tpi BSW form. 265. some years back, on the construction site of new sports accomodation in the Poperinge region, a batch of these base plugs emerged. All of them marked Morum & Co, dated 1915. They were solid brass plugs. As they had the means to hold a rod to form a rifle grenade, I tried to assemble some for the sake of completing some Mills examples in my former collection. Much to my annoyance I didn't manage to get the rods screwed in, untill I found out that the tap was different than the ones usually encountered. The batch with plugs, some 100+ was partially disposed of to local collectors before actually known that they were "not-standard" I should check where they are, but I still have a couple dozen left in uncleaned condition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14276265 Posted 12 April Share Posted 12 April (edited) 10 hours ago, geluveld said: All of them marked Morum & Co, dated 1915. They were solid brass plugs. Were these not 1916 dated? Morum produced plugs - initially steel but superseded by brass to speed delivery - from mid 1916 to early 1917 with a 5/16" BS Brass thread. By a quirk of timing the Morum plugs were initially stamped No.5, and remained so throughout manufacture, but plugs from the two other makers of this pattern were stamped No.23. 265. Edited 12 April by 14276265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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