chids Posted 25 July , 2022 Share Posted 25 July , 2022 Can anyone help, I need to find out if Royal Fusiliers (London Regiment) is the same as Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 July , 2022 Share Posted 25 July , 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, chids said: Can anyone help, I need to find out if Royal Fusiliers (London Regiment) is the same as Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment). Thanks! No. See this thread: Edited 25 July , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chids Posted 25 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 July , 2022 Ok thanks which regiment does this badge belong to please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 July , 2022 Share Posted 25 July , 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, chids said: Ok thanks which regiment does this badge belong to please I’m sorry I’m having trouble posting links and I don’t know if it’s because my battery is low or if the GWF software is faulty. The badge is primarily for the Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment), a large line infantry regiment that had 4-regular battalions and over the course of WW1 raised many more for the duration of the war only. In addition it had 4-Territorial Force (auxiliary part time) battalions that unusually and only because they were a part of the metropolis, were administratively encompassed within a separate and discrete, “London Regiment”, which had battalions numbered 1st to 28th. The 1st to 4th were affiliated to the Royal Fusiliers and wore their badge but different shoulder titles comprising 5-tiers instead of 2-tiers of regulars. This means that your badge could be regular, war-raised or Territorial Force. One problem that was caused was duplication of the numbered battalions 1st to 4th. There were the regular 1st to 4th and the Territorial Force 1st to 4th and although the latter were numbers of the separate, London Regiment, the full formal titles included the words Royal Fusiliers, which when abbreviated, as it often was, caused confusion. It is a peculiar facet of the Royal Fusiliers alone. Edited 25 July , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 25 July , 2022 Share Posted 25 July , 2022 Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chids Posted 25 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 July , 2022 Brilliant thank you so much for that once again so helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chids Posted 25 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 July , 2022 Photo attached of hopefully the right regiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 July , 2022 Share Posted 25 July , 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, chids said: Photo attached of hopefully the right regiment Yes and I can ascertain from the shoulder title that he is not a Territorial. The post war new specification cap and the wearing of collar badges, together indicate a photo taken in the early 1920s. A regular army Royal Fusilier. Edited 25 July , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chids Posted 25 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 July , 2022 1 minute ago, FROGSMILE said: Yes and I can ascertain from the shoulder title that he is not a Territorial. The post war new specification cap and the wearing of collar badges, together indicate a photo taken in the early 1920s. A regular army Royal Fusilier. That’s brilliant thanks so much for your help and expertise it’s very much appreciated 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 July , 2022 Share Posted 25 July , 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, chids said: That’s brilliant thanks so much for your help and expertise it’s very much appreciated 👍 I’m glad to help. The waist belt is obsolescent and from the Slade-Wallace individual load carrying equipment, but the belt was retained as a smart item for walking out of barracks and certain other duties. The remaining items from the equipment were discarded by 1918. The Foot Guards still wear a similar belt today, but with regimental pattern clasps rather than the ‘Union clasp’ worn by your fusilier (see below). He also clutches a swagger stick of ‘whangee’ (cane) type that was popular for battalions serving in (or recently in) the Far East. Edited 25 July , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chids Posted 25 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 July , 2022 That’s brilliant that will to try and help identify who the soldier is thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chids Posted 25 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 July , 2022 Is this the correct entry for the regiment here https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-infantry-regiments-of-1914-1918/royal-fusiliers-city-of-london-regiment/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chids Posted 25 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 July , 2022 Does the image give any clues to his rank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 July , 2022 Share Posted 25 July , 2022 19 minutes ago, chids said: Is this the correct entry for the regiment here https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-infantry-regiments-of-1914-1918/royal-fusiliers-city-of-london-regiment/ Yes that’s the correct regiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 July , 2022 Share Posted 25 July , 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, chids said: Does the image give any clues to his rank? Until 1920 his rank was ‘Private’ (he is not a non-commissioned-officer) but it then became ‘Fusilier’. Edited 25 July , 2022 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chids Posted 25 July , 2022 Author Share Posted 25 July , 2022 Thanks again for confirming that much appreciated 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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