Chris Noble Posted 24 March , 2005 Share Posted 24 March , 2005 Found this in a cemetery in ----edited----. Closer inspection revealed to me, at least, that it was the genuine article. Has anybody come across anything similar? Regards, Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birkettm Posted 24 March , 2005 Share Posted 24 March , 2005 Came accross it occaisionally in scotland. They eventually go bright green.....very pretty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Maier Posted 24 March , 2005 Share Posted 24 March , 2005 It is better not to give identifiable locations. Gravestone plaques have been looted in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john w. Posted 24 March , 2005 Share Posted 24 March , 2005 What a great idea... never seen that.. will certainly be on the look out for them in the future.. it was a private headstone by the look of it John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 24 March , 2005 Share Posted 24 March , 2005 Whilst not 'common', this was a fairly frequent practice. The problem was that many of these plaques were subsequently stolen. I hate to say this but publicising the location of existing examples will only give information to people inclined to do the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Noble Posted 25 March , 2005 Author Share Posted 25 March , 2005 Terry, this is why the original photo has been 'cropped'. I initially was going to incorporate that into my original post but didn't want to imply that somebody viewing the post would want to 'liberate' the item. Incidentally, the casualty is only commemorated by the headstone and not buried at the location. Regards, Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pegum Posted 25 March , 2005 Share Posted 25 March , 2005 There was a thread about these a year or so ago, but a search doesn't go back far enough. Here is a death plaque set into the end of a pew. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 25 March , 2005 Share Posted 25 March , 2005 There was a thread about these a year or so ago, but a search doesn't go back far enough. ? You can search back to the very first thread if you set it right? Plaques set like this were stolen in Strafotrd upon Avon a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Robertson Posted 25 March , 2005 Share Posted 25 March , 2005 I'm afraid that the common Ned (or Chav) wouldn't think twice about "liberating" a plaque from a headstone. Let us just stay silent on the subject lest we stir murky waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Noble Posted 25 March , 2005 Author Share Posted 25 March , 2005 Aye, your right Derek. Just was curious to find out that it is more common than i thought. Regards, Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larneman Posted 25 March , 2005 Share Posted 25 March , 2005 There was a thread about these a year or so ago, but a search doesn't go back far enough. Click here---->>old thread Let us just stay silent on the subject lest we stir murky waters. Funny reaction considering some of the things that are discussed on this forum. I agree that not helping the "tea leafs" by publishing addresses or exact area's is the correct way to go but not discussing this part of the rememberance cermony.... That is a bit much. Even if they are all stolen at least we know they existed and how people put them to use. How people are very inventive and what wonderful memorials they made. just my ha'penny worth, Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Noble Posted 25 March , 2005 Author Share Posted 25 March , 2005 Fair point Liam. That's why i 'cropped' the image. I don't need to be told that there are some undesirables out there that are lower than a snakes belly. This post was from a genuine question as to how common this act of remembrance actually is. I seem to have opened a veritable can of worms here, but hey, Yorkshire is a big place. Wanna find some real a******s, look on e-bay. Nuff said. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larneman Posted 25 March , 2005 Share Posted 25 March , 2005 Hi Chris, I think all the advice was given not just for you but for all of us. The Forum is googled so a search on GOOLE will supply sometimes information more quickly than via the Forum search. So anybody that are not forum members can read what we post without joining this great club. I was not meaning to "stir" but I hate it if a discussion has to stop because of worries about what "some" people will do. That is more than a penny's worth. Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJCarss Posted 27 March , 2005 Share Posted 27 March , 2005 They are not uncommon in Scotland. Unfortunately it is also common to find a stone with a circular cutout with nothing there. A sad age where we rob the dead. Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRICOURT Posted 27 March , 2005 Share Posted 27 March , 2005 The 2 I have come across in Yorkshire are very, very green but in readable condition. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedley Malloch Posted 27 March , 2005 Share Posted 27 March , 2005 I'm afraid that the common Ned (or Chav) wouldn't think twice about "liberating" a plaque from a headstone. Let us just stay silent on the subject lest we stir murky waters. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Words fail me when I read stereotyped and not particularly well-thought criminological ideas, such as those indicated above above. Suffice it to say that Derek's middle-class slip is showing. Personally, I doubt if your 'common Ned (or Chav)' would know where to place them - it's quite a specialised market. On the other hand I know of quite a few well-educated, middle-class lads who are well used to fishing in the murkier waters of the antiques market who would be delighted to get their hands on one. For that reason I won't name the Yorkshire churchyard where I know one can be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Noble Posted 28 March , 2005 Author Share Posted 28 March , 2005 Hi Derek. If you could just clarify your service to the forum, make your situation clear. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Robertson Posted 28 March , 2005 Share Posted 28 March , 2005 What is THE service you are providing, how does it work? Chris. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The website I run is for users of this Forum to list on a website those Death Plaques, Medals and other miscellaneous wants they may have. When someone with a particular item spots that they may have a match they contact me and then I contact the "seeker" and I put the 2 parties together. It is up to them to agree a price, swap or exchange etc. The service is free to anyone to use, any donations for listing are sent to Chris directly by the lister. The website is in the common domain and has had nearly 7000 visits since August, we're reunited 9 plaques to date and 1 set of medals. But the service is only as good as the people out there who are actively seeking out items for others. I hope that answers your question Chris. (ps I'm not middle-class and have never worn a slip ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Noble Posted 28 March , 2005 Author Share Posted 28 March , 2005 Hello Derek. Then I will continue as I have in the past to follow your progress Kindest regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrislock Posted 29 March , 2005 Share Posted 29 March , 2005 As a matter of interest, was visiting the military cemetry in Prague the other day. Many WW2 Allied air crews, tank crews and a solitary WW1 Ox & Bucks soldier lay there. However, what immediately catches the eye, is the WW2 Russian plot. These are the soviet casualties from the intense fighting that took place near and in Prague, when the the Russians arrived to liberate Prague. Their headstones are wonderful, they are ornate, dominating and vandalised. Out of hundreds of headstones, at least half have their blood red soviet insignia ripped out from their mounting! Such a shame! They can be found in second hand hand shops and in collections everywhere! When you visit Prague, forget the "The Square", try this for a visit. The German/Soviet Vaslo army which was executed, are also there, in a mass grave! Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted 7 July , 2005 Share Posted 7 July , 2005 The other night here on CBC, there was a feature interview with a local teacher who is one of 33 Canadian teachers chosen to visit the battlefields of Europe this summer. Some of it was filmed in a local cemetary, where the fellow pointed out an obelisk erected in memory of 808015 Pte.H.W.Palmer,50th Bn.,CEF, KIA 3 June,1917. Mounted on the obelisk was the memorial plaque, named to HOMER WELLINGTON PALMER, and the reporter mentioned that there were several other "death pennies" in the cemetary. This is in rural New Brunswick, so hopefully the plaques will stay safe, but I fear that even peaceful Atlantic Canada will be at risk, for the next night, there was a report on CBC about the theft of two cannon from Fort Beausejour, just a few miles from the cemetary near the New Brunswick-Nova Scotia border. I'm not sure how anyone could walk (stagger?) off with with two cannon barrels, but apparently there is a black market for these items. Beausejour was a fort captured by the British during the wars of the 1750's, when the region changed hands from French to British rule.Renamed Fort Cumberland it withstood attacks by American colonists during the American Revolution a few years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7:29am Posted 7 July , 2005 Share Posted 7 July , 2005 They are not uncommon in Scotland. Unfortunately it is also common to find a stone with a circular cutout with nothing there. A sad age where we rob the dead. Fred <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't think its anything new! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike10764 Posted 7 July , 2005 Share Posted 7 July , 2005 Plaques mounted in gravestones- Saw one of these " Somewhere in the Lake District" . I will post a picture of it soon without giving away it's situation. It is the plaque of William Tyson(that much is visible on the plaque, I'm afraid), but the grave is not his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 8 July , 2005 Admin Share Posted 8 July , 2005 Last week I found a family headstone in a churchyard, to an officer of the 10th Glosters, who died in England as a result of wounds sustained 25th September 1915, and to commemorate his brother who was killed on the Somme, and buried in France. There was a space under each name with a hole in the stone, and a carved laurel wreath beneath that. I am sure that theese spaces contained cap badges, as there was a stalk of metal in one of the holes. I wonder when they were "liberated"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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