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mattcw

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Hi all my friend has asked if I can post pictures of this projectile for identification.

Found at Gommecourt german lines.


Thanks

Matt

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Well, looks to me like the bottom section of a shell fuze, the threads for screwing into the head of shell, and missing the top part, usually of brass with the time, etc., settings. Others will add more, I have no doubt!

Trajan

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Steel ring adaptor for French 75 shell, the hole was for a securing grub screw

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To me it looks like the fuze adaptor ring for the later type German 7.7cm shrapnel shell.

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Hi  all.

 This is Mattcw's friend with the projectile head. (Just joined the forum) Thanks Jay, I have a French 75 head with beehive fuze but this latest find doesn't seem to match. Also have a 77 projectile and it doesn't match that either, do you have any images of the later type, peregrinvs? Also on further research a 76mm minenwerfer has a similar head, your opinions on that would be very welcome.

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24 minutes ago, Garethll said:

Hi  all.

 This is Mattcw's friend with the projectile head. (Just joined the forum) Thanks Jay, I have a French 75 head with beehive fuze but this latest find doesn't seem to match. Also have a 77 projectile and it doesn't match that either, do you have any images of the later type, peregrinvs? Also on further research a 76mm minenwerfer has a similar head, your opinions on that would be very welcome.

 Sorry, by head I mean fuze adapter.

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Hi peregrinvs, I found an image of a later 77 with fuze adapter, you're right, it scales up to match. Thanks for that.

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Here’s one I restored a few years back. The adaptor rings are not easy to find.

 

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Yep, that's a positive id. And it matches up (with a smaller fuze thread width) against my 77projectile when held level with the top. Nice restoration.20220506_145734.jpg.6084a85a21aae952999c9af7c181a124.jpg

I know this is a time fuze for a 77 (seen a few still on projectile in a similar state) but can you give me a make or number for it?20220506_191754.jpg.7886a956556ca899df04965617ad9bcf.jpg20220506_145113.jpg.196eb66f4caa8725b9003e685d8d433d.jpg

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Live and learn... having looked at a few pics it may appear I was thinking of the Belgian 1914 produced timed fuze for the Krupp 75, that said, this particular fuze had a ‘double bellied’ steel adaptor and not ‘single bellied’ as shown in the above relic. Pleased that peregrinvs has given a positive ID.

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Thanks Jay, I also got sidetracked by the Krupp 75 and the British 15pdr even though it's highly unlikely either were ever in action on the Somme. As you say...live and learn.

 

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