HMS Lilac

[Guest Riz]

while researching my family tree I found a cousin,who served on HMS LILAC, I have found out thanks to janes that she was a flower class mine sweeper,but that is where my naval knowledge ends,c.w.g.c has this info on him,

Name: WARREN, JOHN FREDERICK

> Initials: J F

> Nationality: United Kingdom

> Rank: Armourer's Crew

> Regiment: Royal Navy

> Unit Text: H.M.S. "Lilac."

> Age: 20

> Date of Death: 18/08/1915

> Service No: M/5781

> Additional information: Son of John and Lucy Warren,

> of 46, Shere Rd., Deptford, London.

> Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

> Grave/Memorial Reference: D. 4. 556.

> Cemetery: PETERHEAD OLD CHURCHYARD (WARREN, JOHN

> FREDERICK Armourer's Crew M/5781 Royal Navy

> 18/08/1915 20 D. 4. 556)

can anyone add anything to this?my knowledge of naval matters is extremely limited.so anything to flesh out his story would be much appreciated thank you.

[kin47]

Hello Riz

Your cousin was one of 16 ratings killed when LILAC was mined in the North Sea.

don

[Guest Riz]

thankyou kin47,that is just what I wanted to know,as the ship was sold off after the war so obviously wasnt sunk just wondered what had happened.

[Guest Riz]

I thought it might be nice to update this thread, as I have found out more about my cousin. I searched the archives of the Kentish Mercury and find this write -up and picture of him.

September 10th 1915

DEPTFORD ARMOURER KILLED - ARMOURER JOHN F WARREN (R.N.)

Warren whose parents live at 48 Shere Road, Deptford was killed by an explosion while serving on a minesweeper. Only 20 years of age he was, previous to joining the navy in February 1913, employed at Messrs Stones Engineering works, Deptford.

(sorry about the quality but it is a copy from the library micro fiche that I had to scan)

[Michael Lowrey]

Just came upon some more information: Lilac was damaged on a mine laid by the German minelayer (raider) Meteor on the night of August 7/8, 1915. Five other ships were lost in Meteor's minefields in August plus an additional minesweeping sloop was damaged in September.

Best wishes,

Michael

[Guest]

I've only just come across this forum, there are so many around.  John Frederick Warren was my Great Uncle although I had never met him.  He was my Gran's twin brother.  Unfortunately I don't have any additional information on him as my father has also passed and so there isn't many people in the family who would know anything.

[Phil Terry]

Hi everyone, I have only just come across this forum.  John Frederick Warren was my Great Uncle, my Gran's twin brother although I never met him myself as I was born in '62.

 

I just noticed the post above which may have been me...I can't remember.

Edited 27 April , 2023 by Phil Terry

[Phil Terry]

On 01/04/2005 at 18:34, Guest Riz said:

I thought it might be nice to update this thread, as I have found out more about my cousin. I searched the archives of the Kentish Mercury and find this write -up and picture of him.

September 10th 1915

DEPTFORD ARMOURER KILLED - ARMOURER JOHN F WARREN (R.N.)

Warren whose parents live at 48 Shere Road, Deptford was killed by an explosion while serving on a minesweeper. Only 20 years of age he was, previous to joining the navy in February 1913, employed at Messrs Stones Engineering works, Deptford.

(sorry about the quality but it is a copy from the library micro fiche that I had to scan)

Hi Riz

Here is a better quality from the original paper the Kentish Mercury.

Just now, Phil Terry said:

Hi Riz

Here is a better quality from the original paper the Kentish Mercury.

And here is one of Percival, his brother.

[Michelle Young]

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[Phil Terry]

Thanks for letting me know Michelle

 

1 hour ago, Phil Terry said:

Hi Riz

Here is a better quality from the original paper the Kentish Mercury.

And here is one of Percival, his brother.