m1garand1 Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) I recently purchased a 1914-15 star belonging to CPL F.L. Pearce, S4-064505, ASC. I found his medal card, and it states he also served with Princess Victoria's (Royal Irish Fusiliers), 42187 However that is as much as I could find. I was wondering if there was more information on him and his service. Perhaps his enlistment papers that I cannot find, or information on his family? Thank you! I have amended the title of your topic to reflect accuracy and meaning Edited 19 March , 2022 by kenf48 Title Amended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) His medal roll (Ancestry) gives his full name and units: 1914-15 star roll: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/5119/images/41804_636897_11418-00243?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=bfe2c39df4384869f7755520ae808c4f&usePUB=true&_phsrc=WWn1046&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=1055819 Edited 19 March , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) from the MR it rather looks like he may have been 'combed out' of 52 Field Bakery, ASC into 9 RIR [Field Bakeries see LLT = https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-army-service-corps-in-the-first-world-war/field-bakeries-of-the-army-service-corps ] From his MIC it show he survived the war and was eventually transferred to the Army Z Reserve [AR disbanded at the end of August 1920] M Edited 19 March , 2022 by Matlock1418 AR disbanded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 Unfortunately as you may or may not know, many ww1 soldiers papers were lost during the blitz of ww2. Unless extremely lucky, he left memories, won a bravery medal or did something notable in civilian life, chances are little will be found. Its ironic, more can be found out about thise who died rather than those who returned. 1939 free or 1921 census may give up something after the war but during service, you might get lucky contacting the regimental museums that he served with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, chaz said: 1921 census may give up something after the war For a man with about the right/likely sort of age the 1921 Census shows: Harry L Pearce [born] 1891 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England [Enumerated] Birmingham Aston Warwickshire = Harry L, Arthur J, Martha S and 3 others are on this record But no way [yet?] to confirm this is the same man. M Edit & strike - oops, having a senior moment over his forename earlier! Edited 19 March , 2022 by Matlock1418 Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) Frank L Pearce b. 10 Dec 1889, 12 Ark Grove, Southgate, aged 50 in 1939: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/11001480:61596?tid=&pid=&queryId=7a2ae5722b4ba1098716c54f70ec103c&_phsrc=WWn1056&_phstart=successSource 1901 14 Gothic Cottages, Enfield in 1901: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2352/images/rg14_07441_0111_03?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&pId=40522831 1911 (signwriter) : https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2352/images/rg14_07441_0111_03?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&pId=40522831 Frank Lawrence Pearce at 97 Greencoat Place, Westminster, London in 1919: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/424225921:1795?tid=&pid=&queryId=7a2ae5722b4ba1098716c54f70ec103c&_phsrc=WWn1058&_phstart=successSource Edited 19 March , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 3 minutes ago, Ivor Anderson said: Frank L Pearce b. 10 Dec 1889, 50 in 1939: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/11001480:61596?tid=&pid=&queryId=7a2ae5722b4ba1098716c54f70ec103c&_phsrc=WWn1056&_phstart=successSource I saw him earlier, if it is him, then he wasn't registered as 'Frank Lawrence Pearce' at birth. Plenty of Franks, but no Frank Lawerence from 1880 - 1900 in England and Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) You're right. The signwriter was married as 'Frank Leonard Pearce' in 1914: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/277238:1623?tid=&pid=&queryId=2eab861f60ea8edf1a83ace327338075&_phsrc=WWn1065&_phstart=successSource Definitely a Frank Lawrence in Westminster in 1919 (linked further up): Still there with family members in 1925: Edited 19 March , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, chaz said: 1921 census may give up something after the war Returning to the 1921 Census [scrapped my last very poor effort!] For a man with about the right/likely sort of age the 1921 Census shows: Frank L Pearce [Born] 1890, London, England [Enumerated] Bournemouth, Christchurch Hampshire - Frank L, Alfred Edward, Julia Mary and 1 other are on this record But no way [yet?] to confirm this is the same man. M Edited 19 March , 2022 by Matlock1418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) Noting that Frank Lawrence Pearce had a brother Edward Lawrence in 1919 - above: A Charles Pearce married a Harriett Lawrence on 9 July 1871 in Deptford, Kent (Ancestry). I don't see them after 1881 census: https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=7572&h=7772453&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=4772 Charles may have died c.1890 Edited 19 March , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) This man was a BAKER - 52nd Field Bakery!? https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/2352/images/rg14_02850_0465_03?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=edd89e2b6d6a0c571bade450acf51e11&usePUB=true&_phsrc=WWn1132&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=4392526 Born Peckham c.1888? Married by 1911? Edited 19 March , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 Living in Camberwell in 1901, aged 12: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/7814/images/LNDRG13_501_502-0344?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=89f1dd1196e59936ed1bae2195f93b6b&usePUB=true&_phsrc=WWn1147&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=3775181 NOPE - he is Charles Harper Pearce m.1910: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/3393107:1623 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 19 March , 2022 Share Posted 19 March , 2022 (edited) Quite a few men from Field Bakeries were drafted into the 9th RIF at this time: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/5119/images/41629_612057_10684-00259?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=2f9299317763722c97fe3433283e4b26&usePUB=true&_phsrc=WWn1150&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=5128477 Charles Stephen Hummerstone 42188 has a surviving service record: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1219/images/30838_155830-01096?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=e0e368b242aefd3dda99306d4acfc652&usePUB=true&_phsrc=WWn1151&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=1114044 Hummerstone's record shows compulsory transfer to 9th RIF on 8th May 1918. He died at Messines 4 Sept 1918: https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/482462/c-s-hummerstone/ Edited 19 March , 2022 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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