medal entitlement to non embarker

[chaz]

Ive recently purchased a 1915 star trio to Gnr J Dickenson RFA. it came with a SWB. Ive looked at his service record and shows he was gassed. He got the SWB for being gassed , returned to colliery life and then rejoined for a year with the TF.

The SWB that came with the medals is also to a J Dickenson RFA, looking at his records, he also lived at the same address, worked at the same colliery but was older. He turns out to be the first John's father. John Senior only served in England and was invalided out due to rheumatism and resumed back in the colliery.

would the SWB be his only entitlemment?

[Dai Bach y Sowldiwr]

1 hour ago, chaz said:

He got the SWB for being gassed ,

You mean that John (junior) got a SWB for being gassed, but not the SWB in your collection.

What is the number on your SWB, and is there a reference to a SWB on  John (junior)'s MIC.

On the face of it, yes it's quite plausible that John (senior)'s only entitlement was his SWB if he didn't go overseas.

[chaz]

yes Dai,

John junior was gassed , he has two MIC;s his service record  under his numbers 760, 4239,751239 also (721395) RFA, gassed 2/11/17 , Etaples 4/11/17, Halifax 7/11/17 SWB# 481916.

John senior , has one MIC number 771947 RFA Depot TA , sickness , discharged 15/9/17 SWB#128706 (Bronchitis, eye trouble, heart weakness and chronic rheumatism.) class W

 

Ive got 3 medals to 4239 and SWB 128706. Luckilly both lots of papers still remain 

[Dai Bach y Sowldiwr]

That's good chaz.

Someone less on the ball might have assumed the medals and SWB all belonged to the same person.

[chaz]

hmm, thanks.

the title of the sale was   WW1 RFA Gnr Dickinson 1915 medal trio & Silver war badge

the description  was   Trio and SWB,

automatically assumed they were all to the one man, the only clue to who or which was the numbers on the pictures, closer inspection would have shown a different number on the badge to the picture of the paperwork.

 

[Dai Bach y Sowldiwr]

37 minutes ago, chaz said:

hmm, thanks.

the title of the sale was   WW1 RFA Gnr Dickinson 1915 medal trio & Silver war badge

the description  was   Trio and SWB,

automatically assumed they were all to the one man, the only clue to who or which was the numbers on the pictures, closer inspection would have shown a different number on the badge to the picture of the paperwork.

Hmm. Did the vendor actually claim the SWB belonged to John (jun.)? Or was it a vague description?

[chaz]

that was the description as written Trio and SWB,

Ive contacted him to see if he knows of the other badge but he was not aware it was father and son. confusing as both had the same name, same address, same colliery same branch RFA,