Tom Oliviers Posted 3 February , 2022 Share Posted 3 February , 2022 (edited) Hello, Does anyone know the German name of this battery and which units it manned? Found the information of this bunker in a report of 1919 (thanks to Alain van Geeteruyen) I dont know if the bunker survives today. It stood near the road from Bixschoote to Pilckem and was called by the allies "battery 47.83". This battery with such interesting bunker must have a name! Dont mind the 2D guns, they are just for showing purpuses (hell i dont even know they are ww1 , i drew them a very long time ago and still use them for displaying the function of the room purposes) Edited 3 February , 2022 by Tom Oliviers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasmine Bikschote Posted 5 June , 2023 Share Posted 5 June , 2023 On 03/02/2022 at 10:43, Tom Oliviers said: Hello, Does anyone know the German name of this battery and which units it manned? Found the information of this bunker in a report of 1919 (thanks to Alain van Geeteruyen) I dont know if the bunker survives today. It stood near the road from Bixschoote to Pilckem and was called by the allies "battery 47.83". This battery with such interesting bunker must have a name! Dont mind the 2D guns, they are just for showing purpuses (hell i dont even know they are ww1 , i drew them a very long time ago and still use them for displaying the function of the room purposes) Hi Tom Don't know if you are still looking for information but I stumbled on to your topic (I live in Bikschote). I think you are looking for the Ziegler bunker. It still exists. http://www.wo1.be/nl/geschiedenis/gastbijdragen/sites-monumenten-begraafplaatsen-versterkingen-patrimonium/de-ziegler-bunker-boezings-paradepaard More info on this link. Greetings Jasmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 5 June , 2023 Share Posted 5 June , 2023 Hello, French and Belgian trench maps give these coordinates to all enemy batteries. The first number (47) refers to the longitude, the second number (83) to the latitude. However, these coordinates return every so many kilometres. In this case, the number could be just north of Woumen, as well as somewhere near Chaume Farm southwest of Kortekeer (as far as I can guesstimate by comparing some Belgian/French maps). If @Tom Oliviers could repost the attachments, I might say something more. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 5 June , 2023 Share Posted 5 June , 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AOK4 said: Hello, French and Belgian trench maps give these coordinates to all enemy batteries. The first number (47) refers to the longitude, the second number (83) to the latitude. However, these coordinates return every so many kilometres. In this case, the number could be just north of Woumen, as well as somewhere near Chaume Farm southwest of Kortekeer (as far as I can guesstimate by comparing some Belgian/French maps). If @Tom Oliviers could repost the attachments, I might say something more. Jan It seems I was really close with my guesstimate: it's WWI German Bunker Lobeek along the Pilkemstraat according to google maps. On the website of Onroerend Erfgoed: https://inventaris.onroerenderfgoed.be/erfgoedobjecten/213403 Perhaps @Aurel Sercu knows something more? Jan Edited 5 June , 2023 by AOK4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mebu Posted 5 June , 2023 Share Posted 5 June , 2023 (edited) With a map reference of 47.83 it is certainly not the one on the inventaris above, this reference puts it into the waterway, the Lobeek. The existing bunker is at 40.45. There are very many references 47.83, every 500 yards, or 400 metres. (one in each a,b,c,d square) The map below shows these references with an inked X. Nor is it the (wrongly named) Ziegler bunker, map reference 2.4 and not an artillery post. (Nice to see the information on this in the wo1.be reference above, all taken from my book Pill Boxes on the Western Front, an acknowledgement would have been appreciated). There doesn't seem to be any other structures with a map reference 47.83 along this road, perhaps Tom could re-post and/or give some more information and where he found the reference 47.83. PS the blue circle is the existing bunker on the inventaris quoted, the x's are all 47.83 PPS the bunker "Lobeek" on google maps is at reference 8.8, and has no resemblance to that illustrated by Tom Peter Edited 5 June , 2023 by mebu ps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 6 June , 2023 Share Posted 6 June , 2023 @mebu the coordinates in the original post are French, not British! They are completely different to the British grid system. I have looked at French and Belgian maps to come to my conclusion, but one would need a Belgian/French map for the actual area to be 100% certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mebu Posted 6 June , 2023 Share Posted 6 June , 2023 Jan you may well be right, however Tom say it was named "battery 43.87" not "batterie 43.87". I cannot recall a double-chambered artillery bunker, as described in Tom's sketch, along that road. Tom says he has a report from 1919. Would be useful. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 6 June , 2023 Share Posted 6 June , 2023 Just now, mebu said: Jan you may well be right, however Tom say it was named "battery 43.87" not "batterie 43.87". I cannot recall a double-chambered artillery bunker, as described in Tom's sketch, along that road. Tom says he has a report from 1919. Would be useful. Peter Peter, I'm quite sure about my point, the report from 1919 should also be a Belgian report (using the Belgian/French coordinates). Although I agree that the bunker I refer to seems to have only one room. However, we would be certain if Tom would make things clear. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 12 June , 2023 Share Posted 12 June , 2023 Yes, I know, I am late. Apologies ... Could this be about the bunker a mile or 3 from my place, and the pics of which I name, in my PC archives, "Bikschote Pilkemstraat Brissein" ? I see that I have more than a dozen pics of it. All taken 2007, 2010, 2012 and 2016. And I happened to bike by there a couple of times in the past weeks. Including yesterday .. If interested in a pic or two or three here, let me know. Or contact me by e-mail. Sorry I'm in a hurry. (Again. Actually, always ...) Aurel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 15 December , 2023 Share Posted 15 December , 2023 hello, position 47.83 on map French report after their attack on 31 july 1917, preceded by heavy shelling Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 15 December , 2023 Share Posted 15 December , 2023 French report Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 15 December , 2023 Share Posted 15 December , 2023 A pic or two. Bikschote Brissein bunker, Pilkemstraat. 24 June 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 15 December , 2023 Share Posted 15 December , 2023 Pic 2 Sorry I spolt the back wall with my selfie. But it was only to show the height. (I am 1.70 meter) And on 24 June this year I did have two legs !) Aurel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurel Sercu Posted 15 December , 2023 Share Posted 15 December , 2023 One more thing ... I guess the name "Erissem" in Cnocks posting is the same as the name I mentioned, "Brissein" (though I don't remember where I got that name (or spelling) from. Aurel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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