hipster01cg Posted 25 November , 2021 Share Posted 25 November , 2021 Hi! I need help deciphering the rest of this card. From what i can tell it's Thomas Gillies with alias T.S. and that's why he has two cards. He was a private in the Ayrshire Yeomanry who are part of the Corps of Hussars, they were merged into a brigade of the Royal Scots Fusiliers. In medal 2 card it looks like he goes back the Ayrshire Yeomanry, can't tell if he's a different rank. I see the three medals he got, victoey, ww1 medal and the 1914-1915 star. He entered war in 09/10/1915 which means he missed Gallipoli and his first campaign was Egypt. Thats as much as a i can decipher. So this follows is all the stuff i can't decipher Rank next to the last Ayr Yeo x T.Eff AO (177) of 1924 Dis 11-4-16 remarks ...initials for T.E.M. "T.S." Auth of x 20449/GGlo (Roll) col/66/1322 07/C Car Rees submits R.7 E563 re T EFF medal x/29.2.24 AFB 104-117 T.E.M. 27/06/1924 Any help or context would be appreciated. Cheers, Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipster01cg Posted 25 November , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2021 Also i think the T Eff might be something to do with the Territorial Efficiency Medal but you only get if you've served 12 years in the TA. Does the date of entry mean the war or when you entered the army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 November , 2021 Share Posted 25 November , 2021 7 minutes ago, hipster01cg said: I need help deciphering the rest of this card. From what i can tell it's Thomas Gillies with alias T.S. and that's why he has two cards. Most likely not an alias in the case - more likely that one record was opened in the initials, and one in the full first name. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipster01cg Posted 25 November , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2021 1 minute ago, ss002d6252 said: Most likely not an alias in the case - more likely that one record was opened in the initials, and one in the full first name. Craig Yes his name was Thomas Stewart Gillies, that would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 November , 2021 Share Posted 25 November , 2021 1 minute ago, hipster01cg said: Also i think the T Eff might be something to do with the Territorial Efficiency Medal but you only get if you've served 12 years in the TA. Does the date of entry mean the war or when you entered the army? Date of entry is when he entered a theatre of war., During the war each year's service counted double for the Territorial Efficiency Medal. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 November , 2021 Share Posted 25 November , 2021 (edited) Rank next to the last Ayr Yeo Trooper T.Eff Territorial Efficiency Medal AO (177) of 1924 Army Order No 177 of 1924 Dis 11-4-16 Discharged 11/4/1916 remarks ...initials for T.E.M. The correct initials to be engraved on theTerritorial Efficiency Medal are "T.S." 20449 -The number to be stamped on his medal. /GGlo (Roll) col/66/1322 Because the boss says so. His name is Thomas, his initials TS. The authority issuing one set of medals used his name on his card, the other authority used his initials. Not an alias at all. After issuing 2 cards, the error was noted by the authorities who wrote -refer to orher card on one. Edited 25 November , 2021 by Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 November , 2021 Share Posted 25 November , 2021 1 minute ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said: Dis 11-4-16 Discharged 11/4/1916 It looks like, from the service numbers, that he either rejoined voluntarily or was conscripted after this. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 November , 2021 Share Posted 25 November , 2021 If he was TF at this time it would be 'Disembodied'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipster01cg Posted 25 November , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2021 5 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: It looks like, from the service numbers, that he either rejoined voluntarily or was conscripted after this. Craig Yeah i was going to say if they put him up for a TEM he would have to serve more than a year and since the Royal Scots Fusilers battalion merger happened after April 1916 he must have either rejoined or was conscripted. Though given that he signed up before conscription the first time.i'd say rejoined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipster01cg Posted 25 November , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2021 22 minutes ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said: If he was TF at this time it would be 'Disembodied'? I looked at the medal rolls and its abbreviated as Dis but others have Disem so i think it's likely discharged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 25 November , 2021 Share Posted 25 November , 2021 (edited) Medal roll says discharged 392.12 (actually reads 21 not 12) which I've gleand from another post as: Ignore this bit 'With less than 21 years service towards engagement, but with 21 or more years service towards pension'. 1/1 Ayrshire Yeomany did go to Gallipoli 2 days after his arrival in the Egypt theatre. They were at Mudros 11/10/15 and I'm not sure if that would count as the Egypt or Gallipoli theatre. TEW Edited 25 November , 2021 by TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEW Posted 25 November , 2021 Share Posted 25 November , 2021 Whoops, wrong para 392, should be 21 which is: The termination of his ___ period of engagement. TEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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