CWGC commemorations

[Chesterboy]

Just seen this on the CWGC website 

Since our October update, a further 883 cases have been accepted and added to our records, 665 as a result of research into historical cases of non-commemoration, and 218 as part of our usual commemorations process. 
 

how many of 665 are from the IFCP

[Terry Denham]

So far in November, 178 were IFCP cases and 33 came from other researchers. The balance came from CWGC's investigations into historic omissions - mainly amongst African troops.

[Terry Denham]

I suspect the CWGC figures overlap back into the end of October. IFCP had 432 accepted in October including several hundred African troops from the King’s African Rifles and the Sierra Leone Carrier Corps plus quite a few South Africans.

Edited 23 November , 2021 by Terry Denham

[Chesterboy]

Terry, 

the IFCP must be running out of candidate’s to bring forward to the attention of the CWGC. 
 

why don’t enhance your project, by looking at the unknowns from the British Isle for the Great War.  There are Canadians, Australians, South Africans, New Zealand’s who have groups teams looking at there unknowns. 
 

Example if a communal cemetery has 17 burials in it, on the CWGC website it will say 17 burials but when you start looking.  There are 15 Graves which have names attached to them and they state 2 Unknowns are buried in these cemetery. 

that’s it, 2 unknowns.  They don’t tell you anything else, now years ago you couldn’t get information on those 2 unknowns unless you wrote to the CWGC and ask about them.  
 

now with what information available on there website, they can be easily accessible now. 
 

the point I’m getting at, is that the missing man, women, soldiers, sailors, airmen are named on memorials to the missing.  
 

but the actual graves of the unknowns are clearly forgotten about on the website and in the cemetery registers. 
 

therefore the can be classed as In From The Cold candidates as nobody knows about them and body cares about them.  Two classic cases John Kipling and Fergus Bowes-Lyon

john, the grave is a very discussed cases.  Fergus Bowes-Lyon, was buried in a cemetery in France since 1915 and was on there records but was also on the Loos memorial.  

Therefore looking at those graves as a group, will bring the unknowns In From The Cold as you will giving them there names back.  
 

Will

[Terry Denham]

Will

We have tens of thousands of cases to look at so no hope of running out yet.

The Unknowns already have their commemoration albeit on a memorial to the missing somewhere. Also, there are several groups sorting the Unknowns already and CWGC/JCCC have a very active unit looking at them with research provided by interested parties. Many are named each year with one only so named yesterday as stated on the CWGC website. So the Unknowns are well catered for. The non-coms found by IFCP and others have no commemoration anywhere.

As others have this well in hand, there appears to be little reason for us to become involved though we do already help when requested. They are certainly not forgotten by CWGC who maintain a record of each one and they are cared for just like the named casualties. 

Thanks for the suggestion though. I doubt I will live long enough to see the end of the non-coms and, as IFCP is a 24/7 unpaid job, there is little scope for expansion. 

Cheers

Terry

 

[Chesterboy]

12 hours ago, Terry Denham said:

Will

We have tens of thousands of cases to look at so no hope of running out yet.

The Unknowns already have their commemoration albeit on a memorial to the missing somewhere. Also, there are several groups sorting the Unknowns already and CWGC/JCCC have a very active unit looking at them with research provided by interested parties. Many are named each year with one only so named yesterday as stated on the CWGC website. So the Unknowns are well catered for. The non-coms found by IFCP and others have no commemoration anywhere.

As others have this well in hand, there appears to be little reason for us to become involved though we do already help when requested. They are certainly not forgotten by CWGC who maintain a record of each one and they are cared for just like the named casualties. 

Thanks for the suggestion though. I doubt I will live long enough to see the end of the non-coms and, as IFCP is a 24/7 unpaid job, there is little scope for expansion. 

Cheers

Terry

 

Terry, 

 

there is no actual group that is just looking at British Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen.  
 

there are groups in Canada, Australia and South Africa.  Looking at there own country men but not British men

 

as you you can see, from this forum that cases from IFCP are  very out there but if a British Unknown is found and accepted, the only time you get to hear is a press release on the day of the rededication service.  
 

if a group was established, it may get the cases to be looked at quicker or may not be so. 
 

but as group, the news of a successful case, can be got out there quicker.  

Thank you for your kind offer but 

 

will 

 

[familyhistoryman]

After a great deal of research and thanks to IFCP two Darwen men had their CWGC headstone installed yesterday in Darwen Cemetery - Squire Haworth died 1915 and John Farnhill died in 1918

Tony