JMB1943 Posted 6 November , 2021 Share Posted 6 November , 2021 NO comments on the tiger head!! Interpretation of serial number requested ONLY---I have my 4 numbers in my head, but don't want to bias the thoughts of others. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14276265 Posted 6 November , 2021 Share Posted 6 November , 2021 2902... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 7 November , 2021 Share Posted 7 November , 2021 Same opinion, even the digits are simplified probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 7 November , 2021 Author Share Posted 7 November , 2021 Gentlemen, My thoughts (almost) exactly, because I entered it as 2912, but 2902 it is!!! Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.ryan Posted 21 November , 2021 Share Posted 21 November , 2021 After seeing the stamping's on quite a few of these Siamese bayonets, would I be correct in saying that the stamping's on this one look a little unusual. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 22 November , 2021 Author Share Posted 22 November , 2021 Yes, I would certainly have to agree with you. The head, especially, has a very unusual appearance and even the numerals look somewhat different from normal. If I were going to make a Smiling Tiger, I would probably be taken aback by the cost of having ( in this case) at least 3 dies for numerals plus the head, made in a harder steel than the blade of the bayonet. Presumably an even harder steel is required to make the dies. Maybe for someone with machining skills the costs would be less, and it then becomes just a fun exercise………. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 22 November , 2021 Share Posted 22 November , 2021 It could be already a refurbished bayonet, with additional stamps, the nummeral are simplifyed evidently so it could be later period, same as some old digits are there visible, question is too for what was the brazing on crossguard area? fixing the crosspiece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.ryan Posted 25 November , 2021 Share Posted 25 November , 2021 I believe that the cross guard and pommel are both brazed onto the blade's of the Pat. 1907 bayonet, looks like this one is showing more brass than usual because most original finish is missing. The position of that odd looking tiger head is off the mark to where they are usually stamped. The whole bayonet looks like someone's own attempt to copy a smiling tiger bayonet for some reason but I don't think it would fool most collectors if they checked out original marked bayonets. Anyway it was something different to check out. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navydoc16 Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January On 22/11/2021 at 08:19, JMB1943 said: Yes, I would certainly have to agree with you. The head, especially, has a very unusual appearance and even the numerals look somewhat different from normal. If I were going to make a Smiling Tiger, I would probably be taken aback by the cost of having ( in this case) at least 3 dies for numerals plus the head, made in a harder steel than the blade of the bayonet. Presumably an even harder steel is required to make the dies. Maybe for someone with machining skills the costs would be less, and it then becomes just a fun exercise………. Regards, JMB Looks to not be a die stamp? But someone with an chisel engraver or sharp hammer and chisel that has gone over the markings kind regards g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January Even to an 'outsider' like me that tiger looks odd... Trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navydoc16 Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January On 22/11/2021 at 08:19, JMB1943 said: Yes, I would certainly have to agree with you. The head, especially, has a very unusual appearance and even the numerals look somewhat different from normal. If I were going to make a Smiling Tiger, I would probably be taken aback by the cost of having ( in this case) at least 3 dies for numerals plus the head, made in a harder steel than the blade of the bayonet. Presumably an even harder steel is required to make the dies. Maybe for someone with machining skills the costs would be less, and it then becomes just a fun exercise………. Regards, JMB Having now looked at many Siamese bayonets today because I got sidetracked, is that a 1907 or is it another type of Siamese bayonet that has been brazed to a 1907??. The marking look suspiciously like other Siamese bayonets not the markings from the BSA production run. It would explain the "Tiger" and why it has been chiseled in. Kind regards, g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 2 January Author Share Posted 2 January Navydoc, NONE of the markings match those normally seen on the Smiling Tiger Bayonets produced by BSA. As far as I am aware, the Siamese had other bayonets/rifles systems ( Mauser) before the Lee-Enfield but these did not have a tiger head stamp. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navydoc16 Posted 2 January Share Posted 2 January Yes I am just wondering, if that is another siamese bayonet blade (not from a 1907 BSA Contract) that has been brazed to a 1907 or 66 crossguard/grip unit. The numbers looks like the markings found on some of the other Siamese bayonets was what I was getting at, wondering if someone has put them together? as the Tiger looks chiseled in - Not stamped. and the braze line seems rather off.... do you have any more photos? maybe im confused and its late haha kind regards, g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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