Montigny Freiherr Cassius von UB 30

[stevenbecker]

Mates,

 

The Geheime Marine Verlustliste lists the men of UB 30 as Unterseebootsflottille Kurland North Sea UB 30 zurückgeht (going back) 23-2-17

 

I was checking another SS Officer,

 

Montigny Freiherr Cassius von     ObLtzS Marine    U Boat School Crew 4/09 12-14 to 1-15 to Watch officer U 15 to Commander UB 30 Baltic Flotilla 10-16 to 8-17 (from Schapler) to UB 10 Flandern Flotilla 10-17 to 11-17 (replaced Stephan) to UB 42 Constantinople Flotilla 9-18 to 11-18 (replaced Lübbe) U boat    1918-    (born 1890 at Düsseldorf  died 8-11-40) from Heart attack at Bad Tölz with 6 ships sunk (964 tons) from SMS Pommern1914 shown Unterseebootsflottille Kurland North Sea UB 30 zurückgeht (going back) 23-2-17 awarded EK II & EK I and post war 3rd Marine Brigade Löwenfeld 1919-20  later WWII SS Stab/Staff officer SS Totenkopfdivision to SS Junker School in Bad Tölz 1940
 

I did wonder what happened to UB 30 to be recorded around the date 23 Feb 1917 when no details on the U Boat net to what happened?

 

Any ideas whats going on?

 

S.B

[Michael Lowrey]

UB 30 was en route to Flanders on February 23, 1917 when it ran aground on the Dutch island of Walcheren. The submarine eventually got unstranded on its own, but by then Dutch torpedo boats had arrived, and the U-boat was forced to put into Vlissingen to determine why he had entered Dutch waters. It took awhile, but finally on August 8, 1917 UB 30 was released from internment and made her way to Flanders.

[Guest]

Michael,

 

Thanks again mate interesting story there. I wonder why they were not intern for the war?

 

Cheers

S.B

[Michael Lowrey]

Steve,

 

The dividing line between interned for the war and being later released is whether the vessel could get off again by its own power. If tugs had to be called in, it was interned for the war, if it could free itself, it was (eventually) released.

 

Michael

[MACRAE]

Stevenbecker ref to Cassius Freiherr Von Montigny I have his SS Bad Tölz tunic . Not really my collecting field but it was part of the deal . 

 

Dan

[Simon Schnetzke]

Hi Steven,

what‘s your source for his command as a WO on U 15? I have him as a WO on U A only.

Additionally, he was commander on UB 5, UC 28, UB 11 and UB 38 too.

 

Best wishes,

Simon

[stevenbecker]

Mate,

Your details are better then mine, I got them from a number of sources, including the U Boat Net which lists only the three boats

Can you confirm the dates he had command of these boats and a time line of his service?

Cheers

S>B

[Simon Schnetzke]

Hi Steven,

here is what I have regarding his Submarine service:

 

12.1914-02.1915 – U-Schule, Ausbildung

07.03.1915-02.1916 - U A, WO

01.03.1916-27.09.1916 – UB 5, Kdt.

02.10.1916-25.08.1917 – UB 30, Kdt.

21.05.1917-30.05.1917 – UC 28, Fahr-Kdt. (U-Schule)

08.1917-09.1917 – interniert in Holland (geflohen)

07.09.1917-28.10.1917 – UB 11, Kdt.

28.10.1917-07.11.1917 – UB 10, Kdt.

20.11.1917-06.12.1917 – UB 38, Kdt.

12.1917-08.1918 – UT-Offizier, Lehrer

10.08.1918-02.09.1918 – UB 42, Kdt. (nach erster Probefahrt U-Bootdienstunfähig)

11.1918-11.1918 - U-Schule, Lehrer

11.1918-18.11.1918 – U 165, Kdt. (zur Auslieferungsfahrt vorgesehen)

18.03.1919-20.03.1919 – U 167, Kdt. (Bootsverantwortlicher auf Auslieferungsfahrt)

24.11.1919 – a. D.

 

Best wishes,

Simon

[stevenbecker]

Thanks, 

A fuller service then I believed 

Mac, sorry I have no interest in his WWII service, only his WWI service 

I include his WWII service only as part of his story

Cheers