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hi to the forum anybody no what battalion someone with the serial number 21128 would have belong to in the east lancashire regt  regards  steve

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According to SDGW 21128 Nield was serving in the 2nd Bn East Lancashire when killed in action on 2nd April 1918, formerly 5049 Lancashire Fusiliers (Medal Rolls Show 5649 3rd Lancs Fus)

 

 

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hi ken some of the details i have say 4th east lancs thats why i was wondering if it means he was  service battalion hence the service number

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Same information about Battalion shown on his webpage on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website. He has no known grave and is remembered on the Pozieres Memorial.

No age or additional family details are shown

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/1586058/JOSEPH WILLIAM NIELD/

 

There is no obvious missing persons enquiry received by the International Committee of the Red Cross.

 

Soldiers Died in the Great (SDGW), an HMSO publication from the 1920's, shows him as born St James, Manchester and enlisted Manchester, but doesn't give a place of residence. Don't appear to be any surviving Great War service records for him - unfortunately that is usual as German bombs landed in the warehouse where they were stored in WW2. May be a complete co-incidence but there are pre-war papers for a Joseph William Nield, born Manchester, who enlisted in the 3rd Battalion of the Kings Own Royal Lancaster Regiment in 1907, aged 21, (so born circa 1886). He was discharged time expired in 1913.

 

There is no obvious Soldiers Will or Civil Probate for him.

 

Hope that helps,

Peter

 

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It appears he was in the Special Reserve (3rd Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers) and was in a group of special reservists transferred from the Lancashire Fusiliers to the  3rd East Lancashire on 29th April 1915, and posted to the 2nd Battalion in France on the 5th May 1915.

 

You cannot tell from the number alone which Battalion he was posted to as the number would have been allocated at the Depot  when they were posted in April.

The man next to him 21127 Ingham was originally in the group joining the 2nd Bn in France on the 5th May but also served in the 7th and 1st Batttalions according to the Medal Roll. It would appear your g-gfather remained with the 2nd Battalion throughout his service with the BEF.

 

Unfortunately and a source of frustration for researchers is that there was no consistency in the completion of the Rolls, in this case whilst usefully all units are shown, none of the men transferred from the SR of the Lancashire Fusiliers appear to have served in a theatre of war with that Regiment.

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thats brilliant ken thanks a lot actually i am reading about the battle of the somme river crossing as we speak where i think

he was killed again many thanks anyway all the best for xmas and the new year

                    regards steve

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