adrian 1008 Posted 16 December , 2020 Share Posted 16 December , 2020 Telling the story of Capt Ramsay to the mother in law, and the great support from colleagues here, reminded her of her Grandfather and his service in WW1with the Suffolk Regt, a quick look at his MIC and ......... I m confused Could colleagues please decipher the information and explain what various comments relate to, I cant as yet find any attestation papers, or any other records, the Mother in Law believes he rejoined the Suffolks for WW2, but was UK based, possibly covering a POW camp in Suffolk. He was born 29/12/1893 and lived in Clare Suffolk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 16 December , 2020 Share Posted 16 December , 2020 He had been issued with a 14 Star and Clasp for which he was ineligible and returned, reissued with 15 Star but an initial was wrong and had to be corrected (A) IV is an issue voucher, CRV is a certified receipt voucher, AFB 103-117 is an application form for medals. The K1 numbers relate to the Medal Rolls. Black Ink is info for 14 Star, Red Ink for 15Star and Blue Ink for BWM and Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 16 December , 2020 Share Posted 16 December , 2020 Medal Rolls for 15 Star 14 Star BWM and Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 16 December , 2020 Share Posted 16 December , 2020 2 hours ago, adrian 1008 said: I cant as yet find any attestation papers, or any other records, 28 minutes ago, EDWARD1 said: MIC shows re-enlistment 13-3-1919 [Later] Medal roll shows serving as 5820358 with the Suffolks. If serving 1921 then his service record is likely to still be with the MoD and your MiL/you should be able to make an application for a copy - see: https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records [given his DoB & presumed DoD I think pretty straightforward and they are more relaxed than if applying for more recent records] I think Ancestry have a list of such SR and that others on GWF could probably tell you if he is so listed - sorry I can't [before any application to MoD - as it costs £30.00!!] :-) M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian 1008 Posted 16 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 16 December , 2020 Thank you, very helpful So he started off with 2nd suffolks, then 1st Suffolks, and 9th Suffolks any thoughts as to the number change when he remains within the Regiment. I understand the new number on re enlistment, but he has gone from 8020 >70254. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 16 December , 2020 Share Posted 16 December , 2020 3 hours ago, adrian 1008 said: any thoughts as to the number change when he remains within the Regiment. I understand the new number on re enlistment, but he has gone from 8020 >70254. The Army Service number site shows the Regular Army Battalions of the Suffolk Regiment issued service number 8020 at some point between the 27th January 1910, (7936) and the 12th January 1911 (8182). https://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.com/2009/07/suffolk-regiment-1st-2nd-battalions.html This is reflected in the 1911 Census of England & Wales where the 19 year old Private Arthur Ashby, born Clare, Suffolk, is recorded in barracks at Stanhope Lines, Aldershot, with the 2nd Battalion, Suffolk Regiment. So what I'm seeing is a man who serves throughout the Great War period with service number 8020. He re-enlists on the 13th March 1919, terminating at the same time his old engagement. New terms of service so new service number - 70254. Still serving with the Suffolk Regiment at the time of the Army wide renumbering in 1920 he then receives a new unique seven digit number - 5820358 - from the number block allocated to the Suffolk Regiment, (5819001 to 5875000) - see https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/new-british-army-numbers-issued-in-1920/ An informed guess from the number allocated is that as the Regiment shrunk to peace-time strength, he reverted to the 2nd Battalion. Hope that helps, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian 1008 Posted 17 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 17 December , 2020 Thank you Peter, very helpful, am i right in thinking the 1911 census was undertaken in April ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 17 December , 2020 Share Posted 17 December , 2020 1 hour ago, adrian 1008 said: i right in thinking the 1911 census was undertaken in April ? 2 April 1911 I believe. :-) M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 17 December , 2020 Share Posted 17 December , 2020 To be totally precise the date criteria for inclusion at a particular location on the 1911 Census of England & Wales is (courtesy Genes Reunited) Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 17 December , 2020 Share Posted 17 December , 2020 1 hour ago, PRC said: To be totally precise the date criteria for inclusion at a particular location on the 1911 Census of England & Wales is That's me told then! ;-) M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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