Pte G.Critchley KLR casualty - query about the St Helens Roll of Honour

[davidbohl]

Private George Critchley #300216 King's Liverpool CWGC

The St Helens Roll of Honour has his parents as George and Dorothy, which appear on the 1891 census, but George is missing on the subsequent 1901.

Soldiers Effects to widow Isabella (married 1915 Fylde).

 

Can anybody pick him up in 1901, 1911 please or have we got the incorrect family.

thanks

Dave

 

Edit:

This George may have died 

Deaths Sep 1891
Critchley	George	0	Prescot

 

 

From FamilySearch

 

Name:	George Critchley
Event Type:	Burial
Event Date:	16 Sep 1891
Event Place:	Eccleston, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):	Eccleston (Near Prescot) Lancashire, England
Gender:	Male

Edited 27 November , 2020 by davidbohl
St Helens

[PRC]

9 hours ago, davidbohl said:

Can anybody pick him up in 1901, 1911 please or have we got the incorrect family.

 

It’s difficult to make out but the George Critchley who is on the 1891 Census of England & Wales looks to have been 2 months old.

 

He is living with parents George, (aged 42, a Coal Miner, born Tarbock, Lancashire) and Dorothy, (aged 41, born Knowsley, Lancashire) at 12 Elliott Street, Eccleston, St Helens.

 

On the 1901 Census of England & Wales, the parents were recorded at Hardings Row, Rainford, Lancashire. George, (51) was still working as a Coal Miner Hewer. Dorothy was then 50.

 

On the 1911 Census of England & Wales father George, (62, Hostler at a Public House, born Torbuck), was living at 15 Hardings Row, Rainford, the household of his son-in-law James Gaskill and his daughter Martha Ellen Gaskell, (22, born St Helens). George, a married man, states he had been married 38 years and the marriage has produced 10 children, of which 5 were then still alive. Elsewhere Dorothy Critchley, a 60 year old married woman born Knowsley, Lancashire, was recorded living on Church Road, Rainford in the household of her older unmarried sister Ann Bradley. While Dorothy agrees that her marriage has produced 10 children of which then only 5 were still alive, she states that she and her husband have been married 40 years.

 

The civil registration district for St Helens at this time was the Prescot District.

 

The birth of a George Critchley, mothers’ maiden name Bradley, was registered with the civil authorities in the Prescot District of Lancashire in Q2 1891. As you has 42 days after the event to register the birth, then 2 months old on the 5th April 1891 when the census was taken was stretching it, but two calendar months, i.e. born February, was feasible.

 

The marriage of a George Critchley to a Dorothy Bradley was recorded in the Prescot District in Q3 1872.

 

Other children on subsequents censuses and the likely birth and death records look to be:-

 

1: George Critchley, mothers’ maiden name Bradley, birth registered Prescot District, Q2, 1873. The death of a George Critichley aged under 1 was recorded in the Prescot District in Q2 1873.

 

2: James, (1881 Census, 6, born Prescot), (1891, 16, Coal Miner), (1901, married Coal Miner Hewer, aged 26, living next door to parents with wife and three children, aged 6, 4 and 1), (1911 Census still living at Hardings Row, Rainford, aged 36, married Coal Miner Drawer).

James Critchley, mothers’ maiden name Bradley, birth registered Prescot District, Q3, 1874.

 

3. Margaret A., (1881 Census, 4, born Prescot) (1891, 14, Domestic General Assistant)

Margaret Alice Critchley, mothers’ maiden name Bradley, birth registered Prescot District, Q2, 1877.

Q4 1896 Prescot District, possible marriage either to Thomas Ball or James Robinson.

1901 Census  - 23 year old Margaret A Ball, born Prescot, living with husband Thomas Ball, (24, Coal Miner Hewer, born Raidford), at Hardings Row, Rainford. They have three children. Two of those children that match up with birth records showing mothers’ maiden name Critchley).

1911 Census – 34 year old Margaret Alice Ball and her husband Thomas and four of their children living at 31 Hardings Row, Rainford.

 

4. Joseph, (1881 Census, aged 1, born St. Helens), (1891, 11), (1901, married, aged 31, Jas Critchley, a Miner born St Helens, boading at 35 Vista Lane, Haydock with wife Emma, (19, born Haydock and 2 month old daughter Maggie, born Haydock)

1911 Census – 31 year old married Coal Miner Hewer James, now shown as born Prescot, was head of the household at No.6 Oxford Street, Fryston, Castleford, Yorkshire. Lives there with wife Emma, (29, but shown as born Higher Ince, Lancashire) and their four children, the oldest being the 10 year old Maggie, born Haydock.

Joseph Critchley, mothers’ maiden name Bradley, birth registered Prescot District, Q3, 1879.

 

5. Thomas Critchley, mothers’ maiden name Bradley, birth registered Prescot District, Q3, 1879. The death of a Thomas Critchley, aged under 1, was recorded in the Prescot District in Q4 1879.

 

6. Annie O?, (1891, 5, born St Helens), (1901, with parents as Annie, aged 15, Colliery Screen girl).

The marriage of an Annie Jane Critchley to either a Thomas Knowles or a Thomas Beckett was recorded in the Prescot District in Q4 1903.

1911 Census. The 25 year old Annie Jane Beckett, born St Helens, was recorded living with her husband of 7 years, Thomas Beckett, at 63 Crawford Village, Upholland, Lancashire.

Birth - Ann Jane Critchley, mothers’ maiden name Bradley, Prescot District, Q4 1885.

 

7. Martha, (1891, 2, born St Helens), (1901, with parents, aged 12), (1911, Martha Ellen, living with husbands James Gatskill, aged 22. Her father is also living with them).

Martha Ellen Critchley, mothers’ maiden name Bradley, birth registered Prescot District, Q2, 1888.

 

So if we are to believe parents George and Martha and their statements on the 1911 Census returns, of their 10 children , five are already dead.

 

Including the George from the St Helens Roll of Honour I believe I’ve identified 8 of the ten.

 

If you agree with the genealogy legwork above, then following the logic of that statement from George and Dorothy, it would seem on the 2nd April 1911 :-

 

James, Margaret Alice, Joseph, Annie Jane and Martha Ellen are the five children still alive.

 

Therefore George, (1873), George (1891), Thomas, (1879) and two unknown children have died.

 

Taking that to it’s logical conclusion, it looks like the wrong family has been identified.

 

Do you concur?

 

Cheers,

Peter

Edited 27 November , 2020 by PRC
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[davidbohl]

9 hours ago, PRC said:

Do you concur?

Peter, I concur and a half, you've expressed my initial thoughts wonderfully well.

 

The only certain clues I have is that his widow was Isabella and he enlisted in Prescot, was formerly #1021 Lancashire Hussars Yeomanry and was serving in the 18th Battalion.

Lancashire UKBMD states between 1890-1918 there was only one marriage in 1915 that fits.

BALL

Isabella

CRITCHLEY

George

1915

Blackpool, St.John

Blackpool

 

There are marriage banns on Ancestry that might give some dob's to work from.

It's hard to know if he was a St Helens/Prescot lad to start of with.

Thanks

Dave

 

 

 

[helpjpl]

1 hour ago, davidbohl said:

 

Lancashire UKBMD states between 1890-1918 there was only one marriage in 1915 that fits.

BALL

Isabella

CRITCHLEY

George

1915

Blackpool, St.John

Blackpool

There are marriage banns on Ancestry that might give some dob's to work from.

 

Bispham All Hallows, 04 March 1915 (courtesy of ancestry):

JP

[davidbohl]

JP, that could be the key to the door, does he look like George Edgar the gas fitter, he was in Chorley in 1911.

Dad James is also an engineer

 

From FamilySearch

[PRC]

Dave,

 

Extract from the householder return on the 1911 Census of England & Wales

 

 

And where was he living

(Both images courtesy Genes Reunited).

 

Cheers,

Peter

 

[davidbohl]

Excellent, well done all, I'll contact St Helens Roll of Honour with the findings.

Dave