Jump to content
Free downloads from TNA ×
The Great War (1914-1918) Forum

Remembered Today:

MM+bar


Philip Hughes

Recommended Posts

Trying to find out why Sgt J Houston 7/7574Royal Irish Rifles was awarded the bar to MM. Sgt Houston was my great uncle and can any member of the forum advise me on how to find his relatives. Thanks for all your help.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Philip, Welcome to the GWF!

Let's start from the dates of the listings of his MM & Bar. His MM Index Card off TNA (Ref. WO-372-23-122603 - FREE at present) gives the dates of the London Gazette entries and the unique schedule numbers for each award:

1st MM in LG 19 November 1917, schedule no. 112167. Awards for 3rd Ypres, Passchendaele (Bate & Williamson).

2nd MM in LG 11 February 1919, schedule no. 207157. Awards largely for Battle of Amiens, 8 August- 3 September 1918.

 

Screen Shot 2020-11-23 at 10.51.23.jpg

Edited by Ivor Anderson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

His War & Victory medal roll (off Ancestry) show that he served with several battalions of the RIR during WW1.

The MM index Card shows that he was with the 7th Bn. when he won his first MM, but he was with the 2nd Bn. when he was awarded the second.

You will need to search the war diary of the 7th Bn. for Aug.-Oct. 1917:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7352872

 and that of the 2nd Bn. from August-October 1918:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354021

 

Screen Shot 2020-11-23 at 11.16.33.jpg

Edited by Ivor Anderson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The 7th Battalion WD for 29 September 1917 records that the battalion was awarded 19 MMs for bravery during operations at Ypres in August 1917:

(TNA ref. WO-95-1975-2).

Some of the others were Sjt. H. Connolly 10659, schedule no. 112170; Cpl. F. T. Drowyn 494, schedule no. 112179; Edward Boothway 41809, schedule no. 112182; Pte. Harry Freeman 41894, schedule no. 112184; Pte. James Freeney 1124, schedule no. 112185; and Pte. E. P. Giffard 4231, schedule no. 112187.

The WD records a major action on 16 August 1917 - 5 officers killed, 5 wounded, 7 missing. 30 ORs killed, 269 wounded or missing.

The 19-11-1917 London Gazette is here: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30389/data.pdf

N.B. The 7th RIR was amalgamated with the 2nd RIR on 14 November 1917.

Screen Shot 2020-11-23 at 14.42.27.png

Edited by Ivor Anderson
Additional information
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

As mentioned above, he was serving with the 2nd Battalion when he was awarded the bar to his MM.

He does not appear in the battalion history's list of medals awarded, so he may only have been posted to it for a short time.

2nd RIR WD 1917-1919: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354021

 

Screen Shot 2020-12-04 at 19.35.41.png

Edited by Ivor Anderson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The 2nd Battalion were in action on 6th September 1918 and suffered significant casualties.

The WD for 24 Sept. records a medal ribbon presentation by the 36th Division GOC:

 

Screen Shot 2020-12-04 at 21.54.49.png

Edited by Ivor Anderson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

Hi anyone able to tell me why L/Sergeant Frederick William Burke 10th battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers was mentioned in dispatches. He was born 1889 died 28/04/1916 after being shot during the Easter Rising. Any help will be appreciated

Link to comment
Share on other sites

His MiD is in the LG of 25th January 1917. The fact that it says (killed) beside his entry makes it likely it was for around the time he was killed in late April 1916.

That LG states that 'the undermentioned were brought to the attention of the Secretary of State for War for distinguished services rendered in connection with the War'. There is no war diary to consult as the 10th Battalion were still in training in Ireland and did not go to France until August 1916.

He seems to be the only soldier from the 10th RDF to die that day: http://www.irishmedals.ie/British-Soldiers-Killed.php 

Perhaps the circumstances of his death will provide a clue re his MiD?

His father was a highly decorated officer who seems to have risen from the ranks, going by his DCM.

FWR Burke previously served with other regiments from 1914 and left 'to obtain a commission' in Nov. 1915:

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=1114&h=144798&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=2352

Born: Quetta, India 11th December 1894.

Screen Shot 2021-01-27 at 16.35.07.png

Screen Shot 2021-01-27 at 16.27.44.png

Edited by Ivor Anderson
Additional information
Link to comment
Share on other sites

FWR Burke's father John served as a Major with the 2nd RDF and won his DCM as a RSM in the Boer War. His MC was listed in LG 29886 on 1 January 1917.

Father's MIChttps://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1262/images/30850_A000252-02192?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=bac1bb0ae1b97a7b2596b28d3e020034&usePUB=true&_phsrc=AHE8496&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=3069389

Edited by Ivor Anderson
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...