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Anna Gorham
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Hope someone can help confirm for me which Batallion this soldier was a part of, so I may read the correct War Diary.

Solider 496096, this image identifies him as being 2  S Midland Field Coy

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Then I am unsure about if he is with the  2/1 or 2/2

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I then have either the 477th or the 478th.

 

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Can anyone who understands this a lot better than me help please.

 

Best Regards Anna

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Anna

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There are two men with Royal Engineers number 496096

Wilfred A Warwick. Original number 849 re numbered in 1917 as 496096. His Medal Roll Index Card shows that he was Commissioned into the Royal Flying Corps in 1917. There is a Bristol address on the card and it would appear that he did not go to France before 01/01/1916. 

A Silver War Badge for Frederick Chas Lewis, who enlisted on 29/05/1916 and was discharged in 1919. The SWB Roll does not show if he served abroad, possibly not. 

Brian

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According to The Great War Medal Collectors Companion Howard Williamson Vol 11 pg 693 & Vol 111 pg 1245 496096 served 2nd South Midland Field Coy  which was renumbered 475th Field Company (T) 48th Division 

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Let's go right to the beginning. The man served with the Royal Engineers. His unit would be a Company, not a Battalion.

 

His 6-digit number dates to 1917 or later, as it is from the block of numbers issued to the 2nd South Midland Field Company RE for a renumbering scheme.

 

The 2nd South Midland Field Company RE became two units in 1914: the 1/2nd, which served under command of 48th (South Midland) Division and was later renamed 475th Field Company, and the 2/2nd which served under command of the 61st (2nd South Midland) Division and was renamed 478th Field Company.

 

It is not wise, based simply on his number, to decide which of these units he served with. It is even possible that although he had been enlisted into the 2nd South Midland Field Company RE he was actually attached to or transferred to a different unit after his 6-digit number was issued.

 

If you man was Wilfred Alan Warwick, you will need to consult his service record. It is not online anywhere but is held at the National Archives under reference WO339/119432.

 

 

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Thank you all for your information. My man was Frederick Charles Lewis. His enlistment date for 496096 was 29 May 1916 - second number 4074 

He was discharged on the 25th Sept 1919.

My info says Royal Engineers 20th TF Dep, Cause of discharge was  Army Order 29th of Jan. 1919 para 392 (xvi) sickness (I have researched and understand what this is)

I have Frederick's Medal Card, and further below his Discharge Information. Would either of these assist with identifying if he served. The Discharge card says that his illness is attributed to service. 

I am just looking up the National Archives, thanks

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The confusion is caused by the SWB Rolls, which show 096. (courtesy Ancestry). I have found that the SWB Rolls contain lots of errors.

Brian

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Thanks very much Brian, I appreciate your efforts.

Excuse the late response as I am in Australia.

Anna

13 hours ago, EDWARD1 said:

Original post 496096, documents in later post 496906. ??????

Apologies for that, I was using my phone as per my computer. I am blaming it on fat fingers. He is def 496906

Thanks

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22 hours ago, Chris_Baker said:

It is not wise, based simply on his number, to decide which of these units he served with. It is even possible that although he had been enlisted into the 2nd South Midland Field Company RE he was actually attached to or transferred to a different unit after his 6-digit number was issued.

Anna

This is an example of what Chris was referring to, Artillery not RE but the same thing:

710478 Robert Unsworth enlisted into the Bolton Artillery 3 East Lancs Brigade RFA (T) (later 212 then 211 Brigade RFA) in August 1914. His Pension Record (WO 364) does not show his original 4 figure number but he must have had one, probably 1284 or 1285. His AF B 103 (attached courtesy of Ancestry) shows that he did not go to Egypt in September 1914 but went to France in 1917 with 332 Brigade (The Bolton Artillery Reserve Brigade ex 2/3 and 3/3 East Lancs Bde). His 710xxx number was allocated to 212/211 and 332 Brigades in 1917 but as you can see he transferred to 66 Div Ammunition Column when 332 Brigade was broken up. The numbers allocated to 42 Div and 66 Div ACs began 720xxx.

Frederick probably did serve in 1/2 South Midland Field Co later 475 FC but the WD does not confirm it. (WO 95/2571/2).

Brian

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