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stevebecker

Mates,

 

Sorry about this but I can't find what rank this is in the Navy?

 

Axen Heinrich     Marine Ingenieur Appl SMS Breslau (Midilli)     1917-18     (born at Hörnerkirchen Pinneberg KIA 20-1-18) Kapitulanten ship sunk by mines at Saros Bay
 

So what is Appl?

 

I had thought he was an Officer Aspirant, but they are shown differently?

 

Any ideas

 

S.B

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The Prussian

Hi Steve!

Maybe an educated apple-seller? :D

No, joke...

Appl. means APPLIKANT

Note the differences between Anwärter, Applikant and Aspirant!

The ranks were:

a) Marine-Ingenieur-Anwärter (Matrose)

b) Marine-Ingenieur-Oberanwärter (Obermatrose)

c) Marine-Ingenieur-Applikant (Maat)

d) Marine-Ingenieur-Oberapplikant (Obermaat)

e) Marine-Ingenieur-Aspirant (Deckoffizier)

f) Marine-Ingenieur-Oberaspirant (Oberdeckoffizier)

I don´t know the english rank for Deckoffizier, probably Warrant-Officer?

It´s rank between NCOs and officers.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dienstgrade_der_Kaiserlichen_Marine#Ingenieuranwärter

 

 

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Michael Lowrey

Marine-Ingenieur-Applikant was both a common and rare rank. Common, in the sense that it’s a step in the training of engineering officer candidates but also rare in that you don’t see it that much on casualty lists. I’m guessing that stage of the training was mainly done on land or on large ships (battleships, a number were killed on Pommern). I don't think I've ever come across a Marine-Ingenieur-Applikant lost on a WWI U-boat.

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stevebecker

Mates,

 

Thank you, so we are saying he was a Maat so a sailor not a WO (LI) 

 

So would this be right for their ranks?

 

Axen Heinrich    Maat Eng Marine    Ingenieur-Applikant (Maat) SMS Breslau (Midilli) - I. Werft-Div 1. Abtl.    1917-18     (born at Hörnerkirchen Pinneberg KIA 20-1-18) Kapitulanten ship sunk by mines at Saros Bay
Scholtz (Scholz) Martin    Maat Eng Marine    Ingenieur-Applikant (Maat) SMS Breslau (Midilli) - I. Werft-Div 1. Abtl.    1917-18     (born at Demmin KIA 20-1-18) Kapitulanten ship sunk by mines at Saros Bay
 

These are the only two shown lost on the Breslau

 

Cheers


S.B

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The Prussian

I´d say, it´s ok.

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stevebecker

Prussian,

 

Cheers mate 

 

Is this the same of this man lost on the Breslau

 

Londberg Rudolf    ? Marine    Zahlmeister Applikant (Paymaster) Mar-Zahlmstr-Appl SMS Breslau (Midilli) - 3. Abteilung Zahlmstr-Sektion

 

Would he be Zahlmeister Applikant (Maat) and his rank be Maat?

 

S.B

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The Prussian

Hi Steve!

Yes, they belonged to the branch of NCOs without Portepee

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stevebecker

Mates,

 

Cheers these German ranks get me at times?

 

S.B

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