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Is a French Brigadier equal to a British Brigadier


arantxa

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I don’t mean in there mettle ! I was trying to find out about Brig Paul Louis Papegay but can’t find anything 

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4 minutes ago, arantxa said:

I don’t mean in there mettle ! I was trying to find out about Brig Paul Louis Papegay but can’t find anything 


I think it depends if you mean General de Brigade?  If so then it’s yes.  There is another rank, Brigadier, which I seem to recall was a NCO.

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7 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

There is another rank, Brigadier, which I seem to recall was a NCO.

Yes, that is his case.

 

Here is the man on Memoire des Hommes

 

and a little bit of research here.

 

Charlie

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A <<Brigadier>> is a Corporal in the French or Belgian armies, specifically within the cavalry or artillery. Their equivalent of sergeant is <<Maréchal des Logis>>

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Thank you fir the link so maybe he was a tank man as it says 500 regt battle tank

what did you do to find all that info out ?

thank you 

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I bought at auction a box of about 60 different scrolls medals I will keep a couple of the best ones. One is a gallantry medal for first day of Loos to I think 52nd colonials I didn’t even realize the French were at Loos 

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I’ve decided to keep this one but from name or general can I find what regt he was I thought it a very heroic translation which my niece did for me 

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You need to be very careful with the rank of Brigadier. In the Gendarmerie it is the equivalent of Constable!

I would guess that here it is a regimental title for Private or similar (bit like Bombardier or Sapper).

I haven't looked them man up in the records.

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The Medaille Militaire that you show with citation does indeed seem to be signed by the Colonel of the 52eme Colonial, Lt Col Petitdemange. Well worth holding onto medal and Document.

 

It looks like the first day of the Regiment's first action of the war, in the 2nd Battle of Champagne (!!) for which the Regiment as a whole gained a citation of the order of the Army for the period 25/9-6/10/15.

 

Here is the Regimental History. How's your French ?

 

Charlie

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The award is for an action at the Ferme de Navarin, that's no where near Loos...

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Thanks I thought I’d found a general!!! My French is terrible but my Nieces is very good as you can see I’ve got a lot of translations for her to do 

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I only looked at the date and presumed it was the first day of Loos 

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good evenng,

 

at this same date, the french army's attack on the champagne sector.

 

If you want help with the diplomas, I can help you.
I'm French.

 

regards

 

michel

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at work, I have a colleague named Papegay as well as my ex-neighbour.

 

mchel

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On 06/07/2020 at 20:43, battle of loos said:

at work, I have a colleague named Papegay as well as my ex-neighbour.

 

mchel

A German parrot!

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I only looked at the date and presumed it was the first day of Loos 

Dear battle of loos that is very very kind if you to offer 

thank you 

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arantaxa, you have aquired a fascinating collection of scrolls, photos etc. Do you know what the original logic was of this collection? I'm nervous you might inadvertantly break up a collection of linked items !

 

Charlie

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A brigadier is equivalent to a Corporal (OR3) and is a rank applied in cavalry regiments?

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good morning,

 

The rank of "Brigadier" is used in :
Artillery
Cavalry
Gendarmerie
more generally "Armes Montées" (in relation to horses)
also used in :
- National and Municipal Police
- Prison Administration

 

:thumbsup:

 

michel

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1 hour ago, battle of loos said:

good morning,

 

The rank of "Brigadier" is used in :
Artillery
Cavalry
Gendarmerie
more generally "Armes Montées" (in relation to horses)
also used in :
- National and Municipal Police
- Prison Administration

 

:thumbsup:

 

michel

Really it translates into English as "A member of a Brigade".

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