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For anyone interested, Turkish official histories (Mesopotamia-Iran, Sinai-Palestine, Gallipoli, Caucasus, Galicia, Romania, Macedonia/Salonika, Hejaz-Asir-Yemen, Naval and Air Operations and Administration & Logistics) are now available for download at https://www.msb.gov.tr/ArsivAskeriTarih/icerik/birinci-dunya-harbi-serisi 

 

They are all in Turkish but at least all very rich in maps, tables, etc. The first volume of Mesopotamia and second volume of Palestine are missing in the list. I guess they will fix it up later.

 

Direct links to PDF files:

 

Mesopotamia-Iran (vol 2 -after Kut- only): https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/62- bdh_iran_irak_cephe_1914-1918.pdf

 

Sinai-Palestine (vol 1 -until 2nd Gaza- only): https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/115-birinci_dunya_harbi_sina_filistin_harbin_baslangici_ikinci_gazze_sonunakadar.pdf

 

Caucasus (2nd Army Operations): https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/114-Birinci_Dunya_Harbinde_Kafkas_Cephesi.pdf

 

Caucasus (3rd Army Operations):
vol 1: https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/120-birinci_dunya_turk_harbi_kafkas_ucuncu_ordu (1).pdf

vol 2: https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/121-birinci_dunya_turk_harbi_kafkas_ucuncu_ordu (2).pdf

 

Gallipoli (summarised edition of three volumes): https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/Birinci_Dunya_Harbinde_Canakkale_Cephesi_Harekati_Ozetlenmis_Tarih.pdf

 

Hejaz-Asir-Yemen: https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/113-Birinci_Dunya_Harbinde_Yemen_Cephesi.pdf

 

Galicia: https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/108-birinci_dunya_harbi_avrupa_cepheleri_galicya_cephesi.pdf

Romania: https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/109-birinci_dunya_harbi_avrupa_cepheleri_romanya_cephesi.pdf

 

Salonika/Macedonia: https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/110-birinci_dunya_harbi_avrupa_cepheleri_makedonya_cephesi.pdf

 

Air Operations: https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/111-Birinci_Dunya_Harbinde_Turk_Hava_Harekati.pdf

 

Naval Operations: https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/112-Birinci_Dunya_Harbinde_Turk_Deniz_Harekati.pdf

 

Administration and Logistics: https://www.msb.gov.tr/Content/Upload/Docs/askeritariharsiv/117-turk_silahli_kuvvetleri_tarihi_osmanli_devri_idari_lojistik.pdf

 

Emre

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MartH

Emre, thank you much needed!

 

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b3rn

Damn, site is down!

 

"Millî Savunma Bakanlığı sayfasında güncelleme yapılmaktadır. Lütfen daha sonra tekrar deneyiniz."

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Maureene

Site is back up for me.

 

Google Translate English version of website mentioned in post 1.

https://translate.google.com.au/translate?sl=tr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.msb.gov.tr%2FArsivAskeriTarih%2Ficerik%2Fbirinci-dunya-harbi-serisi

 

Possibly the "missing" volumes have now been added?

19 Birinci Dünya Harbinde Türk Harbi, Sina-Filistin Cephesi, Harbin Başlangıcından İkinci Gazze Muherebeleri Sonuna Kadar C.4 Ks.1

19 From the Beginning of the War to the End of the Second Gaza Battalions, the Turkish War, the Sinai-Palestinian Front, in the First World War C.4 Ks.1

 

20  Birinci Dünya Harbinde Türk Harbi, Irak-İran Cephesi (1914-1918) III Cilt

20 Turkish War in the First World War, Iraqi-Iran Front (1914-1918) III Volume

 

Cheers

Maureen

 

 

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b3rn

Brilliant, and cheers Maureene. I got the email notification, and am downloading.

 

Emre, thank you!

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michaeldr

Emre,

 

Thank you very much indeed

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johntaylor

Many thanks for these links Emre.

 

As a slight aside, I wonder if the UK is now the only country whose official histories still aren't available online (apart from the digitised copies kindly provided by India)?

 

All the best, John

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MartH

Many are online check here Click here.

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Maureene
12 hours ago, johntaylor said:

 

As a slight aside, I wonder if the UK is now the only country whose official histories still aren't available online (apart from the digitised copies kindly provided by India)?

 

All the links with the link provided by MartH are to books digitised originally by the Digital Library of India (now no longer functioning, but some files were uploaded to the Internet Archive (Archive.org) ) or American or Canadian Universities which have been digitised by Archive.org or Google Books.

 

Possibly there are copyright considerations with some editions, but even those volumes that were published by  HM Stationery Office, and are certainly  out of copyright, I have never seen digitised by any UK  institution/body, whether Government or University. Not only do institutions such as the British Library appear stripped of funds (a dispirited staff member told me years ago that nothing was digitised by the British Library unless someone else paid for it), I do not believe there is any interest in digitisation by  UK institutions in general. Presumably the British Army provides nothing on its website because no one has thought it worthwhile. From a cost point of view, if Turkey can afford to do, you would think the British Army could also afford to digitise the relatively few volumes of the Official Histories (but perhaps not?)

 

Cheers

Maureen

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WhiteStarLine
6 hours ago, MartH said:

Many are online check here Click here.

@MartH that is a brilliant link - thanks so much for posting it.

 

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domsim

Fantastic thanks very much Emre

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MartH
7 hours ago, Maureene said:

All the links with the link provided by MartH are to books digitised originally by the Digital Library of India (now no longer functioning, but some files were uploaded to the Internet Archive (Archive.org) ) or American or Canadian Universities which have been digitised by Archive.org or Google Books.

 

Possibly there are copyright considerations with some editions, but even those volumes that were published by  HM Stationery Office, and are certainly  out of copyright, I have never seen digitised by any UK  institution/body, whether Government or University. Not only do institutions such as the British Library appear stripped of funds (a dispirited staff member told me years ago that nothing was digitised by the British Library unless someone else paid for it), I do not believe there is any interest in digitisation by  UK institutions in general. Presumably the British Army provides nothing on its website because no one has thought it worthwhile. From a cost point of view, if Turkey can afford to do, you would think the British Army could also afford to digitise the relatively few volumes of the Official Histories (but perhaps not?)

 

Cheers

Maureen

 

As I understand it the Military ones are Digital India but the Naval , Air, and Medical are other libraries. I too can think of no UK institutions who have digitised any except the Welcome library and they even have draft copies!

 

The centenary should have seen all these digitised plus the draft copies. Its a disgrace it has not.

 

The qla has digitised some of the volumes relating to Persia like the Official History.

 

 

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Robert Dunlop

Thank you very much, Emre.

 

Robert

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Maureene

The Turkish Official Histories for Palestine etc are discussed in 

"Wasp or Mosquito? The Arab Revolt in Turkish Military History" by Edward J. Erickson 

British Journal for Military History, Volume 4, Issue 3, July 2018 

http://bjmh.gold.ac.uk/article/download/806/928/  A download to your computer.

 

If you have access to Jstor though a Library 

'The Turkish Official Military Histories of the First World War: A Bibliographic Essay' by Edward J. Erickson

Middle Eastern Studies  Vol. 39, No. 3 (Jul., 2003), pp. 190-198

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4284313    first page is free otherwise

 

Edward J. Erickson  also wrote  books based on Turkish sources , one of which is 

Palestine: The Ottoman Campaigns of 1914–1918  by ‪Edward J. Erickson

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=c7x6DQAAQBAJ&pg=PP1. Sample pages Google Books

 

Not an official history, but I am mentioning  the following book in this topic,  because it is written in the Turkish language (and probably not covered in the official histories)

 

 Kralın Esir Askerleri (I. Dünya Savaşı'nda Anadolu'daki İngiliz Esirleri ve Esir Kampları) by Mahmut Akkor. January 2019

Google translate title   King's Prisoner Soldiers (British Prisoners and Prison Camps in Anatolia during the First World War)

 

There is a book cover, and an abstract in Turkish in https://www.researchgate.net/publication/331787111_Kralin_Esir_Askerleri_I_Dunya_Savasi'nda_Anadolu'daki_Ingiliz_Esirleri_ve_Esir_Kamplari

 

(you can use Google Translate https://translate.google.com.au/#view=home&op=translate&sl=tr&tl=en for the abstract )

 

Cheers

Maureen

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johntaylor
On 21/05/2020 at 22:48, MartH said:

Many are online check here Click here.

Hi, it's great that some of the UK histories are available, but my point was that they were mostly provided by the Digital Library of India, plus one or two US and Canadian institutions.I completely agree with the points made by Maureen and Mart.

 

However I don't want to distract from the main point of the thread, which is to thank Emre (and Maureen) for highlighting the fascinating material available from Turkey, which I was completely unaware of.

 

All the best, John

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