HMS Fisgard

[robbie]

I found this grave for a Boy Artificer on HMS Fisgard in Canterbury Cemetery the other week. Was this a British ship? What was an Artificer?

Robbie

 

 

[per ardua per mare per terram]

HMS “Fisguard” was the establishment at Portsmouth for training artificers.

Artificers were a series of grades for ratings in the engineering branch of the Navy.

[robbie]

HMS “Fisguard” was the establishment at Portsmouth for training artificers.

Artificers were a series of grades for ratings in the engineering branch of the Navy.

Thanks for this. I wonder how he died.

RObbie

[healdav]

Sorry, but it was in Cornwall just outside Torpoint and came under Devonport.

I used to play rugby there!

[Michael]

I did part of my training as an artificer at HMS Fisgard. It is (or should I say WAS) in Torpoint opposite HMS Raleigh, the basic training camp for RN ratings.

It was running down in 1983 and artificer basic training was moved over the road to Raleigh.

Artificers are the RN's technicians. They serve an apprenticeship in either marine, weapons or aircraft engineering. In the WW1 era they were known as Engine Room Artificers (ERA's) and they only specialised in marine engineering.

Mick

[DirtyDick]

Wotcha Robbie

Here's a link to his CWGC post:

http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/casualty_...casualty=368616

Influenza?

Ricardo

[per ardua per mare per terram]

Sorry, but it was in Cornwall just outside Torpoint and came under Devonport.

It was in Portsmouth c.1910-1932. As this is a WWI forum I assumed that only where it was in 1914-20 was relevant.

The same name was used for the artificers training establishment at Torpoint from 1946.

[Michael]

Thanks for putting us right. I hadn't considered that Fisgard wasn't at Torpoint during WW1.

Mick

[robbie]

fOR FISGARD

There was one death to illness and one to drowning in 1914

None in 1915

Two to illness in 1916

Five to illness in 1917

From 1918 to 1921, 2 officers and 21 ratings died.  One rating in a drowning and the others to illness.

don

Have a few hours break from GWF and all these replies, a gal cannot complain, can she?

DOn, where did you get this information from? great.

Ricardo, Wot's "Wotcha" mean? and thanks for the link..yep bet it was flu, too. (another rhyme).

Per, Mick and healdav thanks also.

Robbie

PS: where does the noun "artificer" originate?

Is it along similar lines as "invigilate" I was asked to do this at uni the first year and I had no idea what I was letting myself in for when I said "yes"..

[KONDOA]

Not relevant to WW1, HMS Fisgard was moored off Greenwich Naval College around 1870 -80 as a training establishment. Later Fisguard moved as described above and specialised in engineering trades.

where does the noun "artificer" originate?

Artisan/Artisnal Officer

Roop

[dorrie]

Hello

Could anybody let me know if there was an HMS Fesguard/Fisguard that saw action in the Great War. I have a report in a local newspaper (Retford Times) James Breddy was serving on the HMS Fesguard. In looking on the internet i have found an HMS Fisguard but this saw servie much later on

Thanks in anticpiation

Dorrie

[Michael]

It's HMS Fisgard for 'tiffs training

Mick

[joseph]

Dorrie,

HMS Fisgard II sank of Portland 17 Sept 1914 with the loss of 21 men article may refer to this Fisgard.

Regards Charles

[FAAAEd]

Dorrie,

HMS Fisgard II sank of Portland 17 Sept 1914 with the loss of 21 men article may refer to this Fisgard.

Regards Charles

Having only recently discovered this forum and having joined the RN at HMS Fisgard, a stone class frigate at Torpoint used for basic training of artificers and also having been looking at the history of this establishment I thought I should reply to this.

Many were the vessels that worked their way through the list of hulks that made up HMS Fisgard in the early part of the twentieth century, and of the associated establishments of HMS Tenedos and HMS Indus.

A good strarting place for reseach is the 1983 published, 'The Story of HMS Fisgard' by Lieutenant P J Peyton, B.Sc. RN. This slim A5 book has provided a beginning for my further, ongoing, research into the history of the various vessels that became Fisgard hulks.

The Fisgard II alluded to above was in fact the ex HMS Invincible a 6010 tons ironclad of the Audacious class and built in 1869. The four ships of this class were built as smaller versions of the Bellerophon/Hercules type for service overseas as a counter to the increase in the number of French ironclads in the far flung.

This HMS Invincible was re-named HMS Erebus as a training ship in 1904 before becoming Fisgard II in 1906. She was on her way to the breakers when she foundered.