steve turbo Posted 7 April , 2020 Share Posted 7 April , 2020 Morning I have been trying to I'd this bayonet. Was given it but my grandad some time ago. Only pic I can find that looks the same is a p10907 . And help would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 7 April , 2020 Share Posted 7 April , 2020 Welcome to GWForum! Well, certainly a P.1907, made at Enfield in May ('5') of - I'll make a guess - (19)09, but there are many others who know these things better than I do (JMB44 for example), It seems to be 'unit-marked' on the pommel, for the regiment it went to plus a series number underneath that. Again, others are more on the ball for that sort of thisg. Trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 7 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 7 April , 2020 Thank you for your input. Sure I will get to the bottom of it sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 7 April , 2020 Share Posted 7 April , 2020 My guess as to the markings on the pommel is R W F over 602. R W F = Royal Welch Fusiliers 602 = the “rack” number, which ensured that the same bayonet always went with the same rifle. Notice that there is no (dirt) clearance hole drilled through the pommel; these were not added until 1916. If the value interests you, check eBay for current listings. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 7 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 7 April , 2020 49 minutes ago, JMB1943 said: My guess as to the markings on the pommel is R W F over 602. R W F = Royal Welch Fusiliers 602 = the “rack” number, which ensured that the same bayonet always went with the same rifle. Notice that there is no (dirt) clearance hole drilled through the pommel; these were not added until 1916. If the value interests you, check eBay for current listings. Regards, JMB Thank you jmb. Not really interested in value. Just the history of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 7 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 7 April , 2020 Can anyone suggest what to clean it with. Or is it best left as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 7 April , 2020 Share Posted 7 April , 2020 Most of us collectors will say to remove active rust with bronze wool (or #0000 steel wool) and light oil. Wipe clean, apply a coat of Renaissance Wax to metal and wood. Then leave well alone. Glad to know you are not interested in selling your g’dad’s gift! BTW, the X on the other ricasso is the bend-test proof, and it is flanked by three inspection stamps. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 7 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 7 April , 2020 17 minutes ago, JMB1943 said: Most of us collectors will say to remove active rust with bronze wool (or #0000 steel wool) and light oil. Wipe clean, apply a coat of Renaissance Wax to metal and wood. Then leave well alone. Glad to know you are not interested in selling your g’dad’s gift! BTW, the X on the other ricasso is the bend-test proof, and it is flanked by three inspection stamps. Regards, JMB Thank you jmb.i have know idea where my g dad got it as he was in the 7th battalion robin hoods shirewood foresters regiment I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 7 April , 2020 Share Posted 7 April , 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, steve turbo said: Thank you jmb.i have know idea where my g dad got it as he was in the 7th battalion robin hoods shirewood foresters regiment I think. Hi, Very nice bayonet to a very collectible regiment. it’s really nice to know your not looking to cash in on your family history. If you post your G.F’s details in the “Soldiers” section of the forum, you may find it ties in with his service, if he served elsewhere before the Sherwoods Edited 7 April , 2020 by GWF1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 7 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 7 April , 2020 43 minutes ago, GWF1967 said: Hi, Very nice bayonet to a very collectible regiment. it’s really nice to know your not looking to cash in on your family history. If you post your G.F’s details in the “Soldiers” section of the forum, you may find it ties in with his service, if he served elsewhere before the Sherwoods Thanks will have a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 7 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 7 April , 2020 Some more pics m8. Started to clean it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmad Posted 7 April , 2020 Share Posted 7 April , 2020 Nice item Take care not to over clean, it took over 100 years to get to where it is now if over cleaned it will loose a lot of its character and collectibility. regards and welcome to the forum. ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 7 April , 2020 Share Posted 7 April , 2020 Royal welch fusiliers as JMB has already noted, but the R prefix to the rack number would indicate it was issued to the reserve. I would also echo Ken’s note above about over cleaning, great item so thanks for sharing it with us. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 8 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 8 April , 2020 Thank you for all your help on this bayonet. Will be speaking to my dad later to see if he remembers anything or my gdad told him anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 10 April , 2020 Share Posted 10 April , 2020 On 08/04/2020 at 11:44, steve turbo said: Thank you for all your help on this bayonet. Will be speaking to my dad later to see if he remembers anything or my gdad told him anything. Let's hope he or a relative were in the RWF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 12 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 12 April , 2020 Morning all. Have spoken to my dad to see if he remembers anything about the bayonet. It's a funny story. My dad says that my g dad was given the bayonet by his next door neighbor for cutting the wild rose bushes in his garden. My dad remembers himself and my gdad chopping small trees and all sorts of shrubbery with it. Surprisingly it's still in good condition. Pitty it's not my gdads from the war would of made great talking point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 12 April , 2020 Share Posted 12 April , 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, steve turbo said: Morning all. My dad says that my g dad was given the bayonet by his next door neighbor for cutting the wild rose bushes in his garden. My dad remembers himself and my gdad chopping small trees and all sorts of shrubbery with it. Not a family piece, but it still has a great family story. If you’re still having problems with the roses, and other shrubbery, I’ll happily swap you a bill hook for your bayonet! Edited 12 April , 2020 by GWF1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 12 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 12 April , 2020 2 hours ago, GWF1967 said: Not a family piece, but it still has a great family story. If you’re still having problems with the roses, and other shrubbery, I’ll happily swap you a bill hook for your bayonet! Hahaha was really hopping it was going to be a family piece I could put with the rest of the family collection. Dont really know what to do with it now. I was a 4th generation soldier so was trying to put together all ower regimental things together in one big collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 12 April , 2020 Share Posted 12 April , 2020 1 hour ago, steve turbo said: Hahaha was really hopping it was going to be a family piece I could put with the rest of the family collection. Dont really know what to do with it now. I was a 4th generation soldier so was trying to put together all ower regimental things together in one big collection. It’s probably as close as you’re going to come to your family bayonet. If it were mine, I’d tuck it away quite happily, whilst I looked for a belt and frog to match. If you do sell, it should go a fair way towards the cost of something you really do want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 12 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 12 April , 2020 I have no idea at all what its worth. I did see one for £1500 but that was complete. But not 5he same regiment and it was a Canadian one. Any idea on price anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve turbo Posted 14 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 14 April , 2020 Anyone want to make me an offer on this before I put it on ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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