larneman Posted 11 February , 2005 Share Posted 11 February , 2005 Continuing my research of the Tower Hill Monument I came across the following. I have discovered how bad the records are in the CWGC for the Merchant Seamen mentioned on the Monument are. I am wondering about the records on the Scottish Database concerning merchant seamen . See the following.... 2 men from the same merchant ship died the same day. One was in the RN and the other in the MN. Why the differance in the records. Surname SMITH Firstname H S G Service number Date of death 15/09/1918 Decoration Place of birth Dundee Other SNWM roll THE MERCANTILE MARINE Rank 1st Mate Theatre of death "KENDAL CASTLE" 131282. Surname CRUICKSHANK Firstname Alexander Raffan Service number 7364 Date of death 15/09/1918 Decoration Place of birth Other SNWM roll THE ROYAL NAVY Rank Acting Bombardier Theatre of death R.M.A. S.S. "KENDAL CASTLE". Also what does the number mean or refer to after the ships name. Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted 11 February , 2005 Share Posted 11 February , 2005 Hi Liam, I know the Mercantile Marine list was made up later then the Royal Navy one. I don;t know what the number after the name means but why not email the secretary and ask. His contact is on the auto-responder on the first page. Aye Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 11 February , 2005 Share Posted 11 February , 2005 The number after the ship's name is its OFFICIAL NUMBER given when the ship was registered at whatever port. Ths no. is necessary when seeing what records the Newfoundland Maritime Museum has when using the NMM online search. Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larneman Posted 11 February , 2005 Author Share Posted 11 February , 2005 Thanks Kate for another resource to aid in my research. Now to get ID number of the 1700 odd ships on the Memorial. The web address is:- http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/searchcrew.php Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 11 February , 2005 Share Posted 11 February , 2005 ID number (1) See what's on the internet. (2) Go to nearest Library which has Lloyd's Registers for 1914 etc. And it's KATH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Milner Posted 11 February , 2005 Share Posted 11 February , 2005 Acting Bombardier is an Artillery rank not RN. John Milner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larneman Posted 11 February , 2005 Author Share Posted 11 February , 2005 (1) See what's on the internet. (2) Go to nearest which has Lloyd's Registers for 1914 etc. And it's KATH. I have searched the internet,plenty of search possiblities for everything but British Vessel Numbers. Have not located one in my part of Europe yet and the North Sea is to cold for a swim. Will give Amsterdam a call on Monday. Wonder what the closes British Library is to Ymuiden. Sorry about that KATH but the "E" on my keyboard is so close to the "H" .<grin> Liam. PS: We do not all live in the UK..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larneman Posted 11 February , 2005 Author Share Posted 11 February , 2005 Acting Bombardier is an Artillery rank not RN. Wonder what they called the gunnery fellows on armed merchant vessels? Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 11 February , 2005 Share Posted 11 February , 2005 Have you tried libraries in ports? Also: http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/ON1.htm And: http://gsn.ncl.ac.uk/index.jsp;jsessionid=...4BE56044C1FB621 Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larneman Posted 11 February , 2005 Author Share Posted 11 February , 2005 Thanks Kath. Amsterdam is the main "port" near to me. About 40 km away. Liam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Roberts Posted 12 February , 2005 Share Posted 12 February , 2005 Wonder what they called the gunnery fellows on armed merchant vessels? Wasn't it "Seaman Gunner"? Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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