rolt968 Posted 2 February , 2020 Share Posted 2 February , 2020 I'm writing up a man who was married in the Good Templars (sic) Hall. (That's how it appears on the marriage certificate.) Half of me thinks that it should be "Good Templars'". The other half thinks it should be "Good Templars" because it was the name of the hall and also because it is how it appears on the certificate. What do other people think? RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 2 February , 2020 Admin Share Posted 2 February , 2020 All the references I can find omit the ' Doesn't mean it is correct though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 2 February , 2020 Share Posted 2 February , 2020 Just for a laugh, compare and contrast: I own a dog. My home is my dog's home. I obtained him from the local Dogs' Home. I have a husband. He is a Good Templar. I married him in the local Good Templars' Hall. Apostrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 2 February , 2020 Share Posted 2 February , 2020 I’d leave it out. Long usage lends legitimacy. As with the Odd Fellows Hall in Devonport. To add the apostrophe would be unnecessary. http://www.devonportonline.co.uk/historic_devonport/buildings_historic/oddfellows/oddfellows.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 2 February , 2020 Share Posted 2 February , 2020 Difficult to decide with proper nouns. There is a quay beside the river Liffey in Dublin called Bachelors Walk. It doesn't use an apostrophe now and never has. I couldn't make a judgement on the hall's name for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 2 February , 2020 Share Posted 2 February , 2020 Nice selection of usages in TNA: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=Good+templars+hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 3 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 3 February , 2020 Many thanks to everyone. Documents are inconsistent - like certain stations on the London Underground where the use of the apostraphe on signs is inconsistent. Of course I could make it a quote from the marriage cerificate and put it in inverted commas. On 02/02/2020 at 14:10, seaJane said: Nice selection of usages in TNA: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=Good+templars+hall That's fascinating. One of the documents refers to Bulwell, my late mother's home town. (I don't think that my grandfather was a Good Templar (possibly an Oddfellow?)). RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 3 February , 2020 Share Posted 3 February , 2020 I haven't fully considered the original question, but after doing a bit of Googling I tend towards "Good Templars Hall" - no apostrophe. I can't recall coming across the organisation before, but by one of those strange minor coincidences I read a reference to it this morning when reading the John Jakes novel Heaven and Hell, set in the USA after the War between the States. It revealed to me that it was, and is, a society to promote temperance, with chapters at many US Army posts in the West to combat an "epidemic" army problem of drunkenness. I plead mitigation for going off topic as this thread hasn't specified what were/are the Good Templars - though, of course, there is this website. Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 3 February , 2020 Share Posted 3 February , 2020 34 minutes ago, Moonraker said: It revealed to me that it was, and is, a society to promote temperance ...I An accusation that cannot be made of the Odd Fellows. https://whatpub.com/pubs/PLY/A-01-115/oddfellows-arms-plymouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 3 February , 2020 Share Posted 3 February , 2020 Odd Fellows, or Oddfellows or oddfellows' or oddfellow's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 4 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 4 February , 2020 18 hours ago, Muerrisch said: Odd Fellows, or Oddfellows or oddfellows' or oddfellow's Or possibly not the organisation but one person: odd fellow's? Probably time to call time on this thread. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Admin DavidOwen Posted 4 February , 2020 Admin Share Posted 4 February , 2020 RM you can lock it as the OP or we can do it for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 4 February , 2020 Author Share Posted 4 February , 2020 23 minutes ago, DavidOwen said: RM you can lock it as the OP or we can do it for you? Thanks David, I have only got "Hide" under my moderation tabs. As it's not in Skindles, please lock the thread before it drifts off topic. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 4 February , 2020 Share Posted 4 February , 2020 and time again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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