themonsstar Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 I have had this Gaunts catalogue for a long time it was published roundabout 1900-1910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 (edited) Very interesting to see the types of fasteners and belt hooks, things that are not that often seen. Thank you for posting. NB. Amusingly, the Staffordshire knot was illustrated upside down! Edited 24 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dave66 Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 Fascinating...many thanks for sharing this with us. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 24 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2020 For your enjoyment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 (edited) It seems a pity that no one seems to have reprinted this book, presumably because the copyright still lies with GAUNTS’s. Edited 24 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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themonsstar Posted 24 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2020 It was a catalogue of all of that they sold from around the turn of the 19th century I've quite surprised that the amount of articles they did sell and the wide range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 This is wonderful!! Thank you for sharing. Really silly question, but are they photographs of the badges, or incredible illustrations? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 (edited) Can you please ascertain if item (illustration) number B1126 is described as a ‘Torin Cap’? Edited 24 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 24 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2020 (edited) All of the pages are glossy and I suspect a mix of drawings and photographs. I can not answer the Torin Cap question as I've posted all of the pages from a catalogue. Edited 24 January , 2020 by themonsstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depaor01 Posted 24 January , 2020 Share Posted 24 January , 2020 I think I've seen Gaunt-made buttons on Irish Army uniforms (post-1922 to 1970s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 6 hours ago, themonsstar said: All of the pages are glossy and I suspect a mix of drawings and photographs. I can not answer the Torin Cap question as I've posted all of the pages from a catalogue. Yes, I’d hoped that you could marry up the text with the illustration, it’s too small for me to read, but you have the full size document? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 25 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2020 I cannot find this cap in the index and it does say there was a separate pricing index to the catalogue which unfortunately I don't have. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, themonsstar said: I cannot find this cap in the index and it does say there was a separate pricing index to the catalogue which unfortunately I don't have. Roy Okay, thank you for looking, Roy. I’ve been trying to find contemporary references to the word ‘Torin’ going back as far as possible, and so far it’s been a largely fruitless search. Edited 25 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 25 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2020 When I get the motivation to get back into my library after I've moved all the junk out of the doorway, I have a section on clothing regulations if I remember I'll have a look for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, themonsstar said: When I get the motivation to get back into my library after I've moved all the junk out of the doorway, I have a section on clothing regulations if I remember I'll have a look for you. I inquired with the National Army Museum and even they had no clue as to the origin of the ‘Torin’ designation for that particular pattern of field cap. Ergo, it’s all a bit of a mystery to have an item of British military dress, whose name we know, and that is still used today, and yet with no idea of its origin. It not the same as the Austrian pattern with its two button fastening to the fold down flap. The Torin is a much older and simpler design, a taller version of which was used by HM Foot Guards, where it was known as the ‘Albert Bonnet’, quite probably because he played a part in introducing it, although that cannot be known for certain. A very similar design was used since during the George III era, and another by Royal Marines. All, existed well before there was any mention of Torin. It’s all a bit of a mystery when the term cannot be found in written nomenclature. Edited 25 January , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinto Posted 26 January , 2020 Share Posted 26 January , 2020 Hi On 25/01/2020 at 04:33, FROGSMILE said: Can you please ascertain if item (illustration) number B1126 is described as a ‘Torin Cap’? Hi themonsstar and all, Thanks very much for showing these pictures. I am curious about the crossed axes badge on the B1126 "Torin" cap. Does anyone know it? Thanks, Tinto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 26 January , 2020 Share Posted 26 January , 2020 16 minutes ago, Tinto said: Hi Hi themonsstar and all, Thanks very much for showing these pictures. I am curious about the crossed axes badge on the B1126 "Torin" cap. Does anyone know it? Thanks, Tinto Yes, it’s an officers badge of a British-Indian Army Pioneer Regiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinto Posted 26 January , 2020 Share Posted 26 January , 2020 24 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Yes, it’s an officers badge of a British-Indian Army Pioneer Regiment. Wow, That's quick! Thanks for the identification Frogsmile. Cheers, Tinto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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