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Portuguese Medal to WW1 Saior?


Timur

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I generally collect WW2 militaria but I have an interest in WW1 and always pick stuff up when I have an opportunity.  I recently picked up a medal group for a Leading Seaman RNVR,  I'm puzzled as there is a Portuguese medal awarded to the Sailor with his name and serial number on the back of the medal.  It's a Cross with a coin in the middle with a gold and red ribbon?

I'm trying to get a photo but my phone is playing up.  Any ideas about it?  Thanks. Tim.

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A warm welcome to the Forum. There are many experts here who will no doubt soon be in touch. It's not my subject area, but as I happened to be passing - Portugese War Cross?  https://www.emedals.com/portugal-a-first-war-war-cross. It could, apparently, be awarded to foreigners.

Acknown

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Under an inter-allied arrangement Portugal would have given batches of some of its own awards to the other allied nations to award to their own servicemen. Foreign awards were often awarded to British servicemen for actions or service in Theatres of war where the nation whose award it was also fought, but there were exceptions. As well as for individual actions, they could also be awarded for service over a given period of time, and often to men who had a mention in despatches, unit's certificate of good conduct or similar, and/or if a British award was not available.

 

I always have to remind myself when looking at any RNVR men in WW1, that many sailors actually fought on land as infantry in the Royal Navy Division, including the Western Front, where the Portugese also fought.

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HI Tim

Portuguese medals awarded to commonwealth service people are very very rare.

Can you give me his name and details and I will check him on my database.

 

Peter

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Service number appears to be Z/169, two service records available for him here  https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=Albert+Morris+169+adm (free download from FMP/Ancestry or local library).

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This was not for service in the Royal Naval Division because he did not have any (other than a few weeks at Crystal Palace). He was drafted to sea service in August 1915. He served in Defensively Armed Merchant Ships (DAMS) towards the end of the war.

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On 28/12/2019 at 11:52, Acknown said:

Medal Roll on Ancestry: click here.

Acknown

For those without Ancestry - he was entitled to a 1914-15 Star trio of medals. He claimed them from the Admiralty post-war.

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I have seen sovereigns, half sovereigns and smaller coins put in fancy frames for use as a ring or necklace pendant. I fear this may be something similar, with the owners details added to the reverse of the Portuguese coin.

 

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The coin in the middle seems to be a Portugese Silver 1 Escudo only issued in 1915-1916.

 

https://colnect.com/en/coins/coin/10391-1_Escudo-1910~1926_-_1st_Republic-Portugal

 

Perhaps due to the high rate of inflation in Portugal at the time, between 1913 & 1920 a 1 Escudo note was introduced, with this itself being replaced in 1920 by an Aluminium/Bronze 1 Escudo coin. These changes may have prompted the Silver Escudo's use as an unofficial medal.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_escudo

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