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William Arthur Doidge and Edwin John Doidge


Jools mckenna

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William Arthur Doidge was born in 1896, and might have been a SB. He's pictured in KD and as RAMC.

 

Edwin John Doidge was born 1901 and was apparently a boy soldier and was injured on the 23rd April 1917.

 

Both were brothers of Samuel James Doidge(already researched on the forum).

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1 minute ago, sadbrewer said:

From The British Newspaper Archive...published May 3rd 1917.

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That's brilliant, thank you,

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I reckon the family may have gotten Edwin's birth-date wrong as I don't think he could have been a manager of the Birmingham Co-operative if he was 14-15 (assuming it was in 1915)

 

 

Edit: apparently the birth-date is 100% and they have no doubt about it.

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I think the confusion is there are 2 EJ Diodge from the Millom area. One is Edwin James Doidge born about 1885. The other Edwin John is WA’s brother. Both EJs appear to have moved to the Birmingham area so possibly related somehow. 

Theory to be proved that man being referred to is the older man and he is being referred to in the newspapers. There is a 1911 census return for Edwin James aged 26 as personnel manager grocery in Edgbaston born Millom

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7 minutes ago, Mark1959 said:

Theory to be proved that Lt EJ Diodge of RGA is the older man and he is being referred to in the newspapers. There is a 1911 census return for Edwin James as personnel manager grocery in Edgbaston born Millom

But surely it not a coincidence they were both wounded 23rd April 1917? And wasn't the man in the newspapers a Lance corporal and is in the 2nd Worcestershire regiment?

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Have edited post as RGA ref was wrong

So looks like newspaper man is 35186 Worcs and later 352660 Labour Corps

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Looks like the 1885 man may be later 187094 RAF as well. Discharge 12/2/19 due to GSW Right ???. Again to be proved.

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21 minutes ago, Mark1959 said:

. One is Edwin James Doidge born about 1885.

Just to eliminate him, This could be 147094 Edwin James Doidge, Pte RAF, b 1885, Pension Card shows disch 12/2/19 GSW Rt Lip (or Hip ?), address 92 Hockley Hill, B'ham.

 

edit- crossed with Mark......

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Can anybody tie the 29 Newton Street, Millom address to one of the Doidges(presumably the mother)?

 

Surely hip regarding the RAF man, as I not heard of a left and right lip.

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Well, I think the newspaper clipping can be counted as not being Edwin John Doidge

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7 minutes ago, Jools mckenna said:

Well, I think the newspaper clipping can be counted as not being Edwin John Doidge

I was about to say the same thing but FindmyPast threw this curve ball :   Millom Gazette Feb 1918

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40 market street is correct and was the address of Samuel J Doidge as well. I know Samuel also worked at the Co-op.

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Lots of Doidges in Millom and Coop seems to be a big employer.

So I am back to agreeing newspaper clipping of Worcesters man is Edwin James and not your man !!

It is Edwin James who was a Branch Manager:

again courtesy FindmyPast  MillomGazette 1914

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Well that sorted that, the 23rd April wounding story must come from that clipping and the family must of incorrectly thought it was Edwin John Doidge who was referenced. 

 

Any to be found for William Arthur Doidge?

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5 minutes ago, Jools mckenna said:

Any to be found for William Arthur Doidge?

An MIC for William A Doidge Pte RAMC 79259 is the only W A Doidge I can find.

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Well, I think you've found him, matches with the photo.

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RAMC 79245 Taylor enlisted 19/11/15

RAMC 79259 Doidge .....................

RAMC 79260 Birch enlisted 20/11/15 and went to Salonika 15/6/16 (although that means nothing ?)

RAMC 79263 Shenton   "            "       and went to France   15/5/16

 

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Sadbrewer's clipping says that pte WA Doidge was at Dover Jan 1918.  Could he have been on a hospital ship based at Dover or did they not go there ?

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I think it safe to assume Edwin didn't become a boy soldier due to him being referenced to as Mr and not Pte like William is.

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5 minutes ago, Jools mckenna said:

I think it safe to assume Edwin didn't become a boy soldier

He wasn't in the Forces in 1916:  (courtesy FindmyPast)

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It seems like family myth strikes again!

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Especially as the Feb 1918 puts Edwin (John) with the Co-op in Berkhamsted.

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