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Sunken road, names to faces?

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Andy davidson

Hi

 

Re the malins film of the sunken road, I know a lot of the soldiers on the film are in the nearby cemetery. Has anybody ever put names to the faces ?. It's such a haunting piece of footage. I have done tentative web searches but haven't been able to find anything out there.

 

Thanks

Andy

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phil andrade

This is the Lancashire Fusiliers, isn’t it ?

 

Yes, I have an online acquaintance who proclaims that one of the soldiers is his grandfather : I can’t authenticate this claim, but I believe it.

 

He survived the Somme.  He had also been  in that catastrophic landing at Gallipoli. So says my contact.

 

I’ll seek his permission to elaborate.

 

Phil

 

 

 

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Andy davidson

Hi Phil 

 

Yes, the lancs fusiliers,  would be great if you could find anything out. I've scoured books, internet etc to no avail. Stood in the cemetery many times wondering if I know the face behind the headstone.

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Andy davidson

Ps, just found the same question asked from October 2018, and a web site to the lancs for the great war so now know one face at least.

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phil andrade

Andy,

 

Forgive my manners !  My opening words should be to welcome you to our Forum !

 

I’ve put out a message to my contact, and hope to get a response.

 

I know he can identify his grandfather and sees his face behind one of the projecting bayonets.

 

Phil

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TEW

Ghosts on the Somme must be about the most recent work that idenfies any of the men throughout Malins' film. Just finished reading it but can't recall off hand if any from the Sunken Lane were identified, will check later.

 

It does sound intriguing if 'Grandfather' is in the footage but be aware that IWM receive numerous identifications of men in the whole film that are 'definitely grandfather/uncle' etc but can be discounted as they hadn't actually arrived in France yet or were in a different theatre of war at the time or in the wrong battalion.

TEW

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Andy davidson

Thanks TEW, will have to get a copy of that. Have seen a programme years ago re identifying soldiers, recall the scene where someone has an injured man on his back coming up the trench. Extremely moving scene and I recall the presenter going to someone's house looking at old photos and ruling them out.

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TEW

Just checked my copy and no names given for the footage. There is a photo taken later in the day of 1/Lancs Fus. wounded at a medical post not far from the lane. Capt. C. F. WELLS CO of B Coy would have been wounded in the lane earlier. 2nd Lt. Sheppard was also wounded in the lane.

There is a 2nd Lt. In the footage with his back to camera, perhaps he is Sheppard but I think that's impossible to prove. Incidently, lip readers have worked out what the man opposite the 2nd Lt. said.

 

The man carrying a wounded man in the trench has been claimed as a relative by about 100 people so far, most have been proved to be impossible.

The Ghosts book is well worth it, lots of detail.

Couldn't find the website you mention in post#4?

TEW

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Moonraker

Previous threads:


here

 

here

 

here

 

Moonraker

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Andy davidson

Thanks TEW, found the website, and hi Moonraker, been going through the topics, your links just made it easier !!

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Moonraker

Happy to help, Andy, and welcome to the Forum.

 

One advantage of my being a long-serving member of the GWF is that I have vague memories of topics that have been aired years ago. Not that I have a problem with such topics re-surfacing - new info might have come to light since their last airing - and new members may have joined us able to provide fresh insights.

 

Moonraker

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JBee

I have watched the footage from the Malins film many times and find one of the soldier's faces stays in my mind. He looks direct to the camera and looks terrified. I don't even think I need to tell you all which one I mean, it's so haunting. Poor fella.  I'm vising Sunken Lane in September to pay my respects.

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Andy davidson

Is it the soldiers twirling his gun round? His look gets me especially on the 'they shall not grow old"  film. I have an idea to Id all the names of the Lancashire fusilliers who died in the 1st July. I can do this via a lancs web site which lists all the graves in the nearby cemetery in what was no man's land. I will then subscribe to ancestory.com and put in the surnames accordingly. It may be a wild goose chase but some names may produce photos if family trees have been added to by family member's. I put my grandad's name in a few years back and got photos of my great grandad!

 

I am trusting on pure luck and lots of patience but you never know, a poss photo may just match the stills from the film. It's a rainy day winter project and so far I've only saved the lancs web site to my favourites but it's a start!!

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German IR 169

Thanks for taking this on Andy.   I was equally taken by that image in the film, and was able to visit the Somme/Sunken Lane this summer for the first time.   I wish you luck in this quest and look forward to learning the results of this search.

 

 

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