Salfordian Posted 14 July , 2019 Share Posted 14 July , 2019 Hello all - hope that you are all well and having a great July. A friend of mine is trying to find her Great Grandfather. She believes the name is Thomas Kitching. I can find this one on the net (see attachment) but need to know if he was from the area of Kildale in Yorkshire? Also any headstone pictures? Thanks in advance Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 14 July , 2019 Share Posted 14 July , 2019 SDGW says that that Thos Kitching, 50949 was born Chorlton-On-Medlock, Lancs and enlisted Manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salfordian Posted 14 July , 2019 Author Share Posted 14 July , 2019 Just now, charlie962 said: SDGW says that that Thos Kitching, 50949 was born Chorlton-On-Medlock, Lancs and enlisted Manchester Cheers mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 14 July , 2019 Share Posted 14 July , 2019 (edited) 1911 Census gives him living at 34 Welsh Street Blackburn, a motorman with the Corporation. I also see another Thomas KITCHING,coincidence, who died on 9 April 1917 ! He was a 21 year old Private (474005) in the 54th Canadian Infantry and from Saskatchewan.He is buried in Canadain Cem 2 Pas-de-Calais, and I don' readily see an entry for your man on CWGC. Edited 14 July , 2019 by sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 14 July , 2019 Share Posted 14 July , 2019 Hi Steve, Soldiers' Effects for 50949 Kitching names his mother as Sarah, if that fits. 50 minutes ago, Salfordian said: Also any headstone pictures? British War Graves should be able to help on a FOC basis - link. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 15 July , 2019 Share Posted 15 July , 2019 5 hours ago, Salfordian said: A friend of mine is trying to find her Great Grandfather. She believes the name is Thomas Kitching. Does that mean there is some doubt as to the name? And does she know if he died or survived? It's just a census search for "Kitching" and Kildale brings up just one family, and that for only the 1911 Census. They were Charles, (aged 23 and a Farm Labourer, born Great Ayton, Yorkshire) and his wife Lily, (aged 19 and born Cheshire). The couple say they have only been married a year but have had two children - Charles, (aged 2, born Harorton(?) Hill, Yorkshire) and Wilfred, (aged 1 month, born Kildale). They were living at N5, New Row, Kildale. Checking the marriage register, a Charles Edwin Kitching married a Lily Robinson in the Stokesley District of Yorkshire in the April - June quarter of 1910. Going back to CWGC there is a Lance Corporal 19511 Charles Edwin Kitching who died whilst serving with the 5th Battalion, Yorkshire Regiment on the 23/04/1917. He is remembered on the Arras Memorial. There is no age or additional information. https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/782059/kitching,-charles-edwin/ My copy of SDGW is on the blink as it no displays a place of birth, but the other information is that Lance Corporal 19511 Charles Edwin Kitching was resident Kildale, and enlisted Whitby. It doesn't look like the International Committe of the Red Cross received a missing persons enquiry. Charles is remembered on the war memorial at Kildale, but he is the only Kitching: http://www.ww1-yorkshires.org.uk/html-files/kildale.htm I then followed Charles back through the censuses. On the 1901 Census the 13 year old Charles E Kitching, born Great Ayton, was recorded living with his parents at Brewery Yard, Stokesley. Amongst his 4 siblings is a 15 year old Thomas H. Kitching, born Great Ayton, who was then working as an Agricultural Labourer. The most likely match in the birth records is for a Thomas Henry Kitching, mothers' maiden name Tyerman, which was registered in the Stokesley District in the April to June quarter of 1886. (The birth of a Charles Edwin Kitching, mothers' maiden name Tyerman, was registered in the same District in the January to March quarter of 1888). On the 1911 Census there is a 24 year old Thomas Kitching, born Great Ayton and a Garden Labourer, who was recorded as the married head of a household at High Street, Swainby, Northallerton. He lives there with his wife of three years, Edith, (aged 27 and born Morlton?, Yorkshire). The couple have had two children, both then still alive. They were Irena, (2) and Thomas William, (1) - both born Swainby. The marriage of a Thomas Henry Kitching to an Edith Coulson was recorded in the Stokesley District in the April to June quarter of 1908. Thomas isn't on the Swainby War Memorial. So you have a Kitching from Kildale who died and who had a brother Thomas - is this on the right lines? Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 15 July , 2019 Share Posted 15 July , 2019 Hi, Re 19511 Charles Edwin Kitching 8 hours ago, PRC said: My copy of SDGW is on the blink as it no displays a place of birth The transcription on Ancestry shows it as "Kildale, Yorks". His Soldiers Effects shows an August 1917 payment of his wages to a "Wid; Sole Leg: Lily", but the War Gratuity of £10/- paid in January 1920 being split. 2/3rds to a Thomas Robinson, and 1/3rd to a Mrs Nellie Harrigold. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 15 July , 2019 Share Posted 15 July , 2019 23 minutes ago, clk said: His Soldiers Effects shows an August 1917 payment of his wages to a "Wid; Sole Leg: Lily", but the War Gratuity of £10/- paid in January 1920 being split. 2/3rds to a Thomas Robinson, and 1/3rd to a Mrs Nellie Harrigold. The death of a 28 year old "Lilly" Kitching was recorded in the Stokesley District of Yorkshire in the January to March quarter of 1919 which may be a co-incidence but possibly accounts for why the War Gratuity was paid to others. The four siblings on the 1901 census were all brothers and I couldn't track the family down on the 1891 Census so difficult to know if there were any older sisters. Plus of course they could be Lily's relatives, not Charles. Cheers, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 15 July , 2019 Share Posted 15 July , 2019 (edited) Manchester Evening News 01 May 1917 picture lightened: Edited 15 July , 2019 by Kath pic. lighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salfordian Posted 20 July , 2019 Author Share Posted 20 July , 2019 On 15/07/2019 at 02:58, PRC said: Does that mean there is some doubt as to the name? And does she know if he died or survived? It's just a census search for "Kitching" and Kildale brings up just one family, and that for only the 1911 Census. They were Charles, (aged 23 and a Farm Labourer, born Great Ayton, Yorkshire) and his wife Lily, (aged 19 and born Cheshire). The couple say they have only been married a year but have had two children - Charles, (aged 2, born Harorton(?) Hill, Yorkshire) and Wilfred, (aged 1 month, born Kildale). They were living at N5, New Row, Kildale. Checking the marriage register, a Charles Edwin Kitching married a Lily Robinson in the Stokesley District of Yorkshire in the April - June quarter of 1910. Going back to CWGC there is a Lance Corporal 19511 Charles Edwin Kitching who died whilst serving with the 5th Battalion, Yorkshire Regiment on the 23/04/1917. He is remembered on the Arras Memorial. There is no age or additional information. https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/782059/kitching,-charles-edwin/ My copy of SDGW is on the blink as it no displays a place of birth, but the other information is that Lance Corporal 19511 Charles Edwin Kitching was resident Kildale, and enlisted Whitby. It doesn't look like the International Committe of the Red Cross received a missing persons enquiry. Charles is remembered on the war memorial at Kildale, but he is the only Kitching: http://www.ww1-yorkshires.org.uk/html-files/kildale.htm I then followed Charles back through the censuses. On the 1901 Census the 13 year old Charles E Kitching, born Great Ayton, was recorded living with his parents at Brewery Yard, Stokesley. Amongst his 4 siblings is a 15 year old Thomas H. Kitching, born Great Ayton, who was then working as an Agricultural Labourer. The most likely match in the birth records is for a Thomas Henry Kitching, mothers' maiden name Tyerman, which was registered in the Stokesley District in the April to June quarter of 1886. (The birth of a Charles Edwin Kitching, mothers' maiden name Tyerman, was registered in the same District in the January to March quarter of 1888). On the 1911 Census there is a 24 year old Thomas Kitching, born Great Ayton and a Garden Labourer, who was recorded as the married head of a household at High Street, Swainby, Northallerton. He lives there with his wife of three years, Edith, (aged 27 and born Morlton?, Yorkshire). The couple have had two children, both then still alive. They were Irena, (2) and Thomas William, (1) - both born Swainby. The marriage of a Thomas Henry Kitching to an Edith Coulson was recorded in the Stokesley District in the April to June quarter of 1908. Thomas isn't on the Swainby War Memorial. So you have a Kitching from Kildale who died and who had a brother Thomas - is this on the right lines? Cheers, Peter Peter, This is the actual solider she wanted. Thank you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salfordian Posted 20 July , 2019 Author Share Posted 20 July , 2019 On 15/07/2019 at 16:24, Kath said: Manchester Evening News 01 May 1917 picture lightened: Thank you Kath. I appreciate your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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