Steve1871 Posted 7 June , 2019 Share Posted 7 June , 2019 Two markings, odd to me, the "Tall" Eagle on bolt handle, and on side of Reciever,Common to see a few crowns over gothic letters in a row. On mine here, the first one is a crown over block letters RO, the rest are in Gothic, I have never seen this before?Any idea's guy's ? It also nice to have an S97aA 99' to go with it, no, not matching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 8 June , 2019 Share Posted 8 June , 2019 Hello! It´s not RO, it´s RC. That means "Revisions-Commission". That was working group of acceptance officers, who had to decide whether to accept or rectify weapons which were the subject of a complaint. The eagle means "Barrel fired with the lock" (I hope the translation was right... In german: "Lauf mit Schloß beschossen") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 8 June , 2019 Share Posted 8 June , 2019 Andy has the RC marking interpreted correctly, also the other one, but I guess something like "barrel fired with bolt locked" or "barrel fired with bolt in place". There is a very nice set of markings Steve! There is a whole page in the regulations explaining what they mean and when they were applied, but the three inspection marks in sequence on the receiver (reading from the right, the start), "barrel with bolt test-fired"; "barrel and bolt finished"; "receiver hardened"; and then "Revisons Control". The same style markings on a Kar.98 by the way follow a slightly different sequence... Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 8 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 8 June , 2019 Acceptance officers, subject of a complaint? Like if gun was pulled off production line for a default ? To me, it still is marking's I have never seen before , and I love the 1899 date, not sure if production began in 98 or 99 thank you both for your help here Julian and Andy, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 8 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 8 June , 2019 The unit disc, I think means 10th Pioneer Division 4th company 219th weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 8 June , 2019 Share Posted 8 June , 2019 Hello! Well, I translated it with a tralslator. Originally it is "Abnehmebeamter" The unit is 4th company of Pionier-Bataillon 10, weapon 219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 8 June , 2019 Share Posted 8 June , 2019 The full-length Technical University at Chemnitz dictionary says Abnehmebeamter = "Authorised inspector", so "Acceptance officer" is fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 8 June , 2019 Share Posted 8 June , 2019 5 hours ago, Steve1871 said: The unit disc, I think means 10th Pioneer Division 4th company 219th weapon Overlooked this one... (Hannoversches) Pionier-Bataillon Nr.10, 4 Kompagnie, Waffe 219. According to German Wiki, in August 1914 they were attached to 2 Garde-Reserve-Division, X Reserve Korps, 2 Armee. A photo at: https://www.flickr.com/photos/paranoid_womb/5824856282/ Another at:https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakegoodman/3099204089/ indicates they had S.98/05 by 1915 - sawbacks of course, originally issued only to Pionieren and Telegraphen troops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 8 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 8 June , 2019 Thanks again guys, big help . So they were a Hannover unit, before 1870, Hannover was an actual ( small) German state right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 8 June , 2019 Share Posted 8 June , 2019 (edited) A little bit earlier... The kingdom of Hannover lost its independence in 1866 Edited 8 June , 2019 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 8 June , 2019 Share Posted 8 June , 2019 It was part of GB until Queen Victoria came along - if she had been born a chap and became King Victor, then it would have remained a part of the British Empire! Hannoverian law meant that as a female she could not be ruler of the country and so off it went to one of ther cousins... Hannoverian troops played a major part in the American Revolution, the capture of Gibraltar (which is why one WW1 German unit had "Gibraltar" cuff titiles), and at Waterloo, and there is a superb Victory Monument in Hannover to commemorate that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 8 June , 2019 Share Posted 8 June , 2019 (edited) Right Julian! This photo has nothing to do with the actual thread, but in a case yet... We see General Louis Heinrich Sichart v. Sichartshoff (*1797, + 1882).This man was from Hanover and he served 1815 in the King´s German Legion in Waterloo! Later he became Chief of Staff in the Kingdom of Hanover! When do you see a photo from a man who fought in 1815 and maybe had seen Napoléon???? Edited 8 June , 2019 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 8 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 8 June , 2019 I love this military history guys . Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 9 June , 2019 Share Posted 9 June , 2019 Great photograph Andy, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 9 June , 2019 Share Posted 9 June , 2019 (edited) Here is the ranklist from 1816! He and his brother served in the KGL. Both in the 2nd Line-Bataillon. Ludewig is the german form of Louis Edited 9 June , 2019 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Thomson Posted 18 June , 2019 Share Posted 18 June , 2019 Fascinating thread everybody...thank you all for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 18 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 18 June , 2019 Thank's again Julian and Andy, it is Amazing what you two can bring up on what seem's like such a simple looking unit Mark. To me, it brings the unit to life so to speak. It's great!😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 9 July , 2019 Share Posted 9 July , 2019 We are all here to help each other mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted 9 July , 2019 Share Posted 9 July , 2019 That's absolutely right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 20 July , 2019 Author Share Posted 20 July , 2019 I think the Japanese Murata Type 22 , although early, still qualify as a Great War arm. My type 22 short rifle in food/ average/ dark condition which is common around the state's I recently got a bayonet for it. Got it for blade condition, usually blades are dark and rusty. Hope you like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 20 July , 2019 Author Share Posted 20 July , 2019 Sorry guy's, I posted wrong, wil start new post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 2 August , 2019 Share Posted 2 August , 2019 That's ok by me! I haven't seen one of those before and so will look out for the new thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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