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Skipman
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Am having great difficulty locating places in Palestine on google earth. Modern day maps seem very different to those of the day, and many of these places have either had their names changed, or they no longer exist. Will add a few google earth/Kmz files of various locations. It's quite possible my locations are not extremely accurate but I hope I'm in the rough area. If you are certain any are incorrect, please let me know.

 

Abasan El Kebir

 

Ali El Muntar

 

 Deir el Belah

 

Herbieh

 

Ras Abu Ameirah Ridge

 

Sausage Ridge

 

Wadi Ghazze (What is the correct spelling, have also seen as "Wadi Ghuzze"

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

Kmz Palestine Abasan El Kebir.kmz Kmz Palestine Deir el Belah.kmz Kmz Palestine Herbieh.kmz Kmz Palestine Ras Abu Ameirah Ridge.kmz Kmz Palestine Sausage Ridge.kmz Kmz Palestine Wadi Ghazze.kmz

Kmz Palestine Ali El Muntar.kmz

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emrezmen
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Hello, Mike.

 

Allow me to correct only one of the markings according to my GE file:

 

Ali el Muntar (Mantar Tepe) should be at 31°29'24.96" 34°28'26.55"

 

Others seem to be fairly accurate to me.

 

I'd like to share how the whole region is seen on my GE after trying to locate every important hill, valley, river, trench system or redoubt I saw on the maps:
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BTW, just wanted to say, I'm planning to share an Ottoman Turkish trench map of Gaza (I recently found it) which I think might be of interest to forum members who are studying the Palestine Front. Still "Romanising" the place names on it.

 

Cheers,

Emre.

 

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Skipman

 

Many thanks for the correction Emre, and look forward to trench map. :thumbsup:

 

Mike

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emrezmen
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To be more precise: (with a little bit of trench map I mentioned above)

 

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Of course the comparison does not match 100%. The country has changed drastically (as much as I can see from GE. Never been there).

 

One of the reasons I identified this point as Ali el Muntar is that even on the GE it's clear how the hill dominates the whole area. I couldn't find a spot that seems to be higher than this along the ridge:image.png.2b98fb410bd6de59a08bd0cd37d4c4b3.png

 

 

 

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Skipman

Excellent and thanks again. Ali Muntar was a shrine or a mosque, is that correct?

 

Mike

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emrezmen
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Yes, one of the shrines that frequently found in the region. It's believed that the hill took its name from Sheikh Ali el Muntar. Turks called the hill simply "Mantar Tepe" (Mushroom Hill). I found some details about it in two books: "Corpus Inscriptionum Arabicarum Palaestinae" (Vol.4) by Moshe Sharon and "Archaeological Researches in Palestine" by Clermont-Ganneau.

 

I'm happy to share a photo taken on the hill after Third Battle of Gaza. You can see the remains of shrine on the right (Source: New Zealand National Army Museum):

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Skipman

Thank you again Emre, that's an excellent photograph. Also really interesting to hear the Turkish namefor it "Mushroom Hill".

 

Mike

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