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Is it possible to find out who this young man was?

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PAUL82

All I know that he was in the 12th Lancers and I think the uniform is from the first world war?

any help would be of great help.

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alf mcm
TTracer44

Looks like a Salisbury conection!

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alf mcm

Full name Charles de Vaux Harding. He married Grace MacPherson Colvin in Edinburgh in 1916. {Record on Scotlandspeople}.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

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PAUL82

My goodness!

I really thought the name Harding was the Photographer?

That is fabulous if this is who say it is thank you!

Can I ask you how you came to this conclusion?

 

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Coldstreamer

prob only man of this name - rank in that part of the cavalry - very small units compared to a county regiment for example

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kenmorrison

London Gazette 7 December 1915 Issue:29393 Page:12194

War Office,

7th December, 1915.

REGULAR FORCES.

The undermentioned Warrant and Non-

Commissioned Officers to be Second Lieutenants

for service in the Field: —

CAVALRY.

12th (Prince of Wales's Royal) Lancers.

Squadron Serjeant-Major Charles de

Vaux Harding, from 2nd Dragoons (Royal

Scots Greys). Dated 2nd November, 1915.

 

Ken

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PAUL82

Wow I am really surprised,

I really thought the name Harding on the photograph was the name of the photographer and from Salisbury.

Should I open up the frame and check if there is any info on the back of the photograph?

Any suggestions?

And Thank you so far to all who have taken their time to find out information for me.

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alf mcm
11 hours ago, PAUL82 said:

My goodness!

I really thought the name Harding was the Photographer?

That is fabulous if this is who say it is thank you!

Can I ask you how you came to this conclusion?

 

Paul,

  I looked on Ancestry for an MIC, surname ‘Harding’and Regiment ‘12 Lancers’. There was only 1 result. The War Diary for the 12th Lancers is available on The National Archives for £3.50.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7351496

Charles is sure to be mentioned. Officers names are always capitalized, so are easy to find. Some pages in this diary, which is over 300 pages long, have been typed rather than hand-written. The photograph probably shows Charles when he was just commissioned, the uniform looks brand new. I would try looking at the back of the photo if possible.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

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4 minutes ago, alf mcm said:

Paul,

  I looked on Ancestry for an MIC, surname ‘Harding’and Regiment ‘12 Lancers’. There was only 1 result. The War Diary for the 12th Lancers is available on The National Archives for £3.50.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7351496

Charles is sure to be mentioned. Officers names are always capitalized, so are easy to find. Some pages in this diary, which is over 300 pages long, have been typed rather than hand-written. The photograph probably shows Charles when he was just commissioned, the uniform looks brand new. I would try looking at the back of the photo if possible.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

Thank you

I do you think that it is a First world war uniform and not a second world war uniform?

 

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corisande

There appears to be embossing on the front of the photo - what does that say?

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PAUL82
4 minutes ago, corisande said:

There appears to be embossing on the front of the photo - what does that say?

Sorry where about?

 

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corisande

Bottom left of actual photograph

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PAUL82
6 minutes ago, corisande said:

Bottom left of actual photograph

apologises i'm not able to identify it, there appears to be some scratch marks.

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Heid the Ba

The Edinburgh address should be Morningside Park, and is just the sort of place a Minister would live.

 

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si168

Here are his medal which i have.

 

Rgds

 

Si

 

Medals.jpg

And another pic of him

 

 

Pic.jpg

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BillyH

He was Mentioned in Dispatches (Oak Leaf on Victory Medal ribbon.)

This should also be in London Gazette?

 

BillyH.

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MaxD

His service number suggest he enlisted in 1910 (he was Squadron Sergeant Major in 1915).  As Alf and Ken have noted, he first saw service in the 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys) going to France on 19 Oct 1915 (medal records).    Commissioning on 2 November 1915 suggest he went straight to the 12th Lancers from the base?

 

Can't find his MiD.  There is an LG entry for him on 20 May 1919 being appointed a Riding Master. 

 

A Charles de Vaux Harding was commissioned into the Administrative and Special Duties Branch of the RAF on 12 July 1940.  The medal collection has the WW2 War Medal 1939-1945, there are no WW2 campaign medals which may suggest home service,

 

Max

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FROGSMILE

There was a cavalry brigade based in Tidworth, whose closest City was Salisbury.  Perhaps the 12th Lancers or his previous regiment, the 2nd Dragoon’s (Royal Scots Greys) had a depot there?  The style of the photo suggests a celebratory portrait upon being commissioned as an officer.

Edited by FROGSMILE

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FROGSMILE
On 07/03/2019 at 10:12, PAUL82 said:

Thank you

I do you think that it is a First world war uniform and not a second world war uniform?

 


Yes, it is a First World War uniform and the rank badges on his cuff are pointers in that regard. 
As Max has indicated above it seems he served in the RAF during WW2.

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MaxD

Deleted - Salisbury covered already (photographers logo and "Salisbury" ).

Edited by MaxD

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si168

The medals came with his service book which reads as follows:

 

2nd Dragoons Royal Scots Greys  12/10/1898 - 27/9/1912

2nd Lovat Scouts 28/9/1912 - 15/2/1915

2nd Dragoons Royal Scots Greys 16/2/1915 - 18/11/1915

12th Lancers 19/11/1915  wounded eye &  face 26/6/1916

Acting Captain 19/11/1917

MID 13/12/1918 For valuable services in communication with the war.

24/3/1919 Kildare Ireland

10/11/1919 Remount Depot Romsey Hampshire 

 

he was also a fluent French speaker.

 

rgds

 

Si

 

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