PAUL82 Posted 6 March , 2019 Share Posted 6 March , 2019 All I know that he was in the 12th Lancers and I think the uniform is from the first world war? any help would be of great help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 6 March , 2019 Share Posted 6 March , 2019 Paul, Welcome to the forum. A check on medal index cards on Ancestry show that he may be C. DE V. Harding, who was S.S. Major in 2nd Dragoons, and then commisioned as 2nd Lieutenant. He was later promoted to Captain in the 12th Lancers. There are addresses on the card for Edinburgh and Cheshire. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1262/30850_A000684-02105?pid=3157089&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc%3DbmY24043%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource%26usePUBJs%3Dtrue%26indiv%3D1%26db%3Dmedalrolls%26gsln%3DHARDING%26gsfn_x%3D1%26gsln_x%3D1%26cp%3D11%26gskw%3D12th%20LANCERS%26gskw_x%3D1%26new%3D1%26rank%3D1%26redir%3Dfalse%26uidh%3D9y4%26gss%3Dangs-d%26pcat%3D39%26fh%3D0%26h%3D3157089%26recoff%3D%26ml_rpos%3D1&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bmY24043&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTracer44 Posted 6 March , 2019 Share Posted 6 March , 2019 Looks like a Salisbury conection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 6 March , 2019 Share Posted 6 March , 2019 Full name Charles de Vaux Harding. He married Grace MacPherson Colvin in Edinburgh in 1916. {Record on Scotlandspeople}. Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAUL82 Posted 6 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 6 March , 2019 My goodness! I really thought the name Harding was the Photographer? That is fabulous if this is who say it is thank you! Can I ask you how you came to this conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 7 March , 2019 Share Posted 7 March , 2019 prob only man of this name - rank in that part of the cavalry - very small units compared to a county regiment for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 7 March , 2019 Share Posted 7 March , 2019 The Tatler 6/9/1916 p.26 has a photograph of MRS. C. DE VAUX HARDING Nee Miss Grace Colvin, daughter of the late Rev. Duncan Colvin and Mrs Colvin, 63, Morningsihe Park, Edinburgh, who recently married 2nd Lieut. Charles de Vaux Harding, 12th Royal Lancers Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 7 March , 2019 Share Posted 7 March , 2019 London Gazette 7 December 1915 Issue:29393 Page:12194 War Office, 7th December, 1915. REGULAR FORCES. The undermentioned Warrant and Non- Commissioned Officers to be Second Lieutenants for service in the Field: — CAVALRY. 12th (Prince of Wales's Royal) Lancers. Squadron Serjeant-Major Charles de Vaux Harding, from 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys). Dated 2nd November, 1915. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAUL82 Posted 7 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 7 March , 2019 Wow I am really surprised, I really thought the name Harding on the photograph was the name of the photographer and from Salisbury. Should I open up the frame and check if there is any info on the back of the photograph? Any suggestions? And Thank you so far to all who have taken their time to find out information for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 7 March , 2019 Share Posted 7 March , 2019 11 hours ago, PAUL82 said: My goodness! I really thought the name Harding was the Photographer? That is fabulous if this is who say it is thank you! Can I ask you how you came to this conclusion? Paul, I looked on Ancestry for an MIC, surname ‘Harding’and Regiment ‘12 Lancers’. There was only 1 result. The War Diary for the 12th Lancers is available on The National Archives for £3.50. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7351496 Charles is sure to be mentioned. Officers names are always capitalized, so are easy to find. Some pages in this diary, which is over 300 pages long, have been typed rather than hand-written. The photograph probably shows Charles when he was just commissioned, the uniform looks brand new. I would try looking at the back of the photo if possible. Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAUL82 Posted 7 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 7 March , 2019 4 minutes ago, alf mcm said: Paul, I looked on Ancestry for an MIC, surname ‘Harding’and Regiment ‘12 Lancers’. There was only 1 result. The War Diary for the 12th Lancers is available on The National Archives for £3.50. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7351496 Charles is sure to be mentioned. Officers names are always capitalized, so are easy to find. Some pages in this diary, which is over 300 pages long, have been typed rather than hand-written. The photograph probably shows Charles when he was just commissioned, the uniform looks brand new. I would try looking at the back of the photo if possible. Regards, Alf McM Thank you I do you think that it is a First world war uniform and not a second world war uniform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 7 March , 2019 Share Posted 7 March , 2019 There appears to be embossing on the front of the photo - what does that say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAUL82 Posted 7 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 7 March , 2019 4 minutes ago, corisande said: There appears to be embossing on the front of the photo - what does that say? Sorry where about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 7 March , 2019 Share Posted 7 March , 2019 Bottom left of actual photograph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAUL82 Posted 7 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 7 March , 2019 6 minutes ago, corisande said: Bottom left of actual photograph apologises i'm not able to identify it, there appears to be some scratch marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heid the Ba Posted 7 March , 2019 Share Posted 7 March , 2019 The Edinburgh address should be Morningside Park, and is just the sort of place a Minister would live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
si168 Posted 4 December , 2019 Share Posted 4 December , 2019 Here are his medal which i have. Rgds Si And another pic of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyH Posted 4 December , 2019 Share Posted 4 December , 2019 He was Mentioned in Dispatches (Oak Leaf on Victory Medal ribbon.) This should also be in London Gazette? BillyH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 4 December , 2019 Share Posted 4 December , 2019 His service number suggest he enlisted in 1910 (he was Squadron Sergeant Major in 1915). As Alf and Ken have noted, he first saw service in the 2nd Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys) going to France on 19 Oct 1915 (medal records). Commissioning on 2 November 1915 suggest he went straight to the 12th Lancers from the base? Can't find his MiD. There is an LG entry for him on 20 May 1919 being appointed a Riding Master. A Charles de Vaux Harding was commissioned into the Administrative and Special Duties Branch of the RAF on 12 July 1940. The medal collection has the WW2 War Medal 1939-1945, there are no WW2 campaign medals which may suggest home service, Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 4 December , 2019 Share Posted 4 December , 2019 (edited) There was a cavalry brigade based in Tidworth, whose closest City was Salisbury. Perhaps the 12th Lancers or his previous regiment, the 2nd Dragoon’s (Royal Scots Greys) had a depot there? The style of the photo suggests a celebratory portrait upon being commissioned as an officer. Edited 4 December , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 4 December , 2019 Share Posted 4 December , 2019 On 07/03/2019 at 10:12, PAUL82 said: Thank you I do you think that it is a First world war uniform and not a second world war uniform? Yes, it is a First World War uniform and the rank badges on his cuff are pointers in that regard. As Max has indicated above it seems he served in the RAF during WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 4 December , 2019 Share Posted 4 December , 2019 (edited) Deleted - Salisbury covered already (photographers logo and "Salisbury" ). Edited 4 December , 2019 by MaxD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
si168 Posted 6 December , 2019 Share Posted 6 December , 2019 The medals came with his service book which reads as follows: 2nd Dragoons Royal Scots Greys 12/10/1898 - 27/9/1912 2nd Lovat Scouts 28/9/1912 - 15/2/1915 2nd Dragoons Royal Scots Greys 16/2/1915 - 18/11/1915 12th Lancers 19/11/1915 wounded eye & face 26/6/1916 Acting Captain 19/11/1917 MID 13/12/1918 For valuable services in communication with the war. 24/3/1919 Kildare Ireland 10/11/1919 Remount Depot Romsey Hampshire he was also a fluent French speaker. rgds Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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