Blackblue Posted 11 February , 2019 Share Posted 11 February , 2019 I wonder if anyone can give an explanation for variances in Trench Map references in Flanders? Obviously map to ground was a challenge then, but I have noted that there often seems to be references given in documents which are well to the west of the actual feature. For example in the case of Tyne Cot Cemetery its reference is given as D.17.a.00.25 on Burial Returns, whereas the actual cemetery appears to be more like D.17.a.50.25. Any thoughts? Tim D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 11 February , 2019 Share Posted 11 February , 2019 28.D.17.a.00.25. is pretty accurate, isn't it? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 11 February , 2019 Author Share Posted 11 February , 2019 (edited) If 250 yards can be considered accurate where there is a very obvious feature on the map? I’m wondering if there were different versions of maps used where the Grid Squares shifted? I’ve noticed similar with original burial Grids recorded vs ultimate recovery Grids. TD Edited 11 February , 2019 by Blackblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 11 February , 2019 Share Posted 11 February , 2019 Tim, The cemetery shown on the trench map at 28. D.17.a.50.25 is NOT the Tyne Cot Commonwealth War Graves Cemetery, but a pre-existing civilian cemetery to the east of the War Cemetery. See ... . Trench Ref 28. D.17.a.00.25 lands you squarely in Tyne Cot where the cursor cross is visible in the right hand pane above. See here on the Muninn Project HTH Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 12 February , 2019 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2019 Thanks Mark, I was looking on Google Maps and it appeared to be same location. So I take it the original civilian cemetery no longer exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 12 February , 2019 Share Posted 12 February , 2019 6 hours ago, MBrockway said: Tim, The cemetery shown on the trench map at 28. D.17.a.50.25 is NOT the Tyne Cot Commonwealth War Graves Cemetery, but a pre-existing civilian cemetery to the east of the War Cemetery. See ... . Trench Ref 28. D.17.a.00.25 lands you squarely in Tyne Cot where the cursor cross is visible in the right hand pane above. See here on the Muninn Project HTH Mark It is not a pre-existing civilian cemetery, but a German military cemetery. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 12 February , 2019 Share Posted 12 February , 2019 Thanks Jan. It now appears to be an empty, but well kept field used as a horse paddock. See it on StreetView from 2009 here. Presumably the German graves were concentrated elsewhere? Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 12 February , 2019 Share Posted 12 February , 2019 Yes, the German graves were exhumed and reburied in Menen. The history of the german cemetery at Keerselaarhoek will be mentioned in my next book about German cemeteries, planned to be published later this year. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughton Posted 15 February , 2019 Share Posted 15 February , 2019 See here for when I undertook to track down the origin of the trench map coordinates - there is detail on the original Belgian coordinates. It appears the question has been answered but you might find this of interest: GET SQUARED! USE A TRENCH MAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 10 March , 2020 Author Share Posted 10 March , 2020 (edited) Thanks Jan and Richard! Edited 10 March , 2020 by Blackblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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