Guest Posted 10 February , 2019 Share Posted 10 February , 2019 I have been allowed so see and copy a great many photographs of this camp, the photograph is of a memorial erected by the British, Belgium, French and Russian troop who were imprisoned here, however I've been unable to find where the memorial is now. Looking at modern photographs of the POW camp and burial grounds it doesn't appear. In the collection are photographs of many of the men imprisoned her, many with the names of the back, and many group photos and 3 which show funerals of a Russian Officer and a French Officer. They were sent home by a POW who was interned here between 1915 until 1918. He was in the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders. We'd like if possible to see if the memorial survived?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 10 February , 2019 Share Posted 10 February , 2019 It is no longer there, a part of it was found in Kassel after WW2 and brought back to the Cemetery. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 10 February , 2019 Share Posted 10 February , 2019 (edited) Hi, there is a 25 pages booklet, published recently (2018) by the Kassel stamp-collector´s club that deals mostly - but not only - with the postal history of this camp and has lots of postcards and a map of the camp in it. There are a few postcards of the memorial´s inauguration. The booklet costs 5€. I bought it at the Kassel city museum. GreyC Edited 10 February , 2019 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAW Posted 10 February , 2019 Share Posted 10 February , 2019 (edited) The British sergeant on the extreme left of the first photograph appears to be 8276 Sergeant Arthur Henry BOYCE, 2nd King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry - see unpublished postcard photograph attached (Sgt. Boyce top, middle). Born Soham, Cambridgeshire 1886. Died Doncaster, Yorkshire, 1961. Served with the KOYLI c.1904 - c.1925 and again in WW2 with the Royal Artillery. Captured at the Battle of Le Cateau, 26Aug 1914 and held at Niederzwehren POW Camp near Kassel (Cassel), Germany. Mark Edited 10 February , 2019 by MAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Boyce Posted 25 August , 2021 Share Posted 25 August , 2021 (edited) Arthur Henry Boyce was my grandfather. - would love to know where did you find the image and postcard? We have some more family photos so will track them down and upload to this site. 2nd Btn KOYLI, was wounded at Le Cateau. He was with Major Yate and must have been one of the 19 survivors with him taken prisoner. He was repatriated in 1917. Arthur continued his service with the KOYLIs and was promoted to WOII. He was awarded the MSM in 1920 for services to the King. His military record shows he was a POW from 26 Aug at Le Cateau field hospital and later at Res Laz Hollande Strasse Reserve Hospital for a rifle shot to his left hand. by 18 Jan 1915 he was transferred to Gelf. Nieder prison camp, Niederzwerhen (Kassel). His younger brother was Albert Boyce, No 757 - 27 Oct 1888 - 22 Jan 1915, In 1911 he was a private in the 2nd Btn Rifle Brigade in Calcutta. Albert Boyce, Lance Sergeant, died of his wounds on Friday 22 Jan 1915 (France & Flanders). 1st image - Arthur Henry Boyce 2nd image - Albert Boyce Edited 25 August , 2021 by Amanda Boyce photos added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAW Posted 25 August , 2021 Share Posted 25 August , 2021 Amanda, The annotated postcard photograph was purchased in 2017 from a specialist military postcard seller on ebay ('bugseye40'). Do you know how and why Arthur Henry Boyce was repatriated in 1917? Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWK Posted 25 August , 2021 Share Posted 25 August , 2021 Amanda, you probably already have them, but here are his ICRC cards (filed under "Boyce, King's Shropshire Light Infantry" https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/5288856/3/2/ https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/5004310/3/2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Boyce Posted 26 August , 2021 Share Posted 26 August , 2021 (edited) Thanks, sadly I've only just picked up this family story as I had lunch with my mother at the weekend and she insisted that my grandfather (on my father's side) had been interned in Switzerland not Germany which led me to google, this site and your thread..... So, after a bit more investigation it's assumed by the family that the repatriation was as part of an exchange of injured/long term prisoners (over 18 months POW) http://www.switzerland1914-1918.net/prisoners-of-war-interned-in-switzerland.html The ICRC site as a record of him under the 'British servicemen interned in Switzerland' category and a link to a newspaper article in the English Herald 16/9/1916 - an incomplete copy and a page missing so will try to track down the 'list' to see if we can confirm he was named in the article https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/440664/3/2/ https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/440664/701/50256/ He went to Murren in Switzerland and we have postcards he sent and some more photos (will scan and upload) I still can't find details of his return to the UK but believe he embarked at Hull, working on that one and have a cousin who knows much more about his story. All the best Mandy Edited 26 August , 2021 by Amanda Boyce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 27 August , 2021 Share Posted 27 August , 2021 Mandy see my reply to your other post, R50256 has two pages, you need to scroll down to the 2nd page Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Boyce Posted 27 August , 2021 Share Posted 27 August , 2021 8 hours ago, charlie2 said: Mandy see my reply to your other post, R50256 has two pages, you need to scroll down to the 2nd page Charlie Thanks Charlie, doesn't seem to want to scroll for me, on my laptop I just get the 1 page....tried it on ipad and it works there! Great to have your help! So here is the list placing him at the Alpenruh Hotel, Murren. Seems that the hotel burnt down in 1919 but expect it would have been similar and/or they would have been billeted in the staff accommodation that the new hotel was https://alpenruh-muerren.ch/en/Offer/Hotel/History I think he also had a family visit so will try to find out more about that... There's also a good explanation of the exchange programme in this link: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=a2LNDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT113&ots=OIF43evUZs&dq=alpenruh hotel murren 1917&pg=PT111#v=onepage&q=alpenruh hotel murren 1917&f=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Boyce Posted 27 August , 2021 Share Posted 27 August , 2021 HELP! So on this ICRC record card there is a P number - P 15125 The link is to a seemingly unassociated record. I've tried different combinations of the numbers,, especially for the 2nd digit which looks like a 5 but unclear. Any ideas for tracking down this P number or the correct record number? (I know it's like looking for a needle in a haystack). Thanks Mandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWK Posted 27 August , 2021 Share Posted 27 August , 2021 (edited) It's a list of French POW's in Lazaretts , dated 3 Feb 1915. How I got there: Name: Boyce Nationality : French or Belgian Military Then click on any card, and type in P 15125 Somehow I thought that PA means "Prisonniers Angleterre" (English prisoner) , and "P" just Prisonniers (all other nationalities), so the list would be in the French Army files. I am most probably mistaken, but at least it got us there! https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Zoom/E/02/02/C_G1_E_02_02_0076/C_G1_E_02_02_0076_0134.JPG/4 https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Zoom/E/02/02/C_G1_E_02_02_0076/C_G1_E_02_02_0076_0109.JPG/4 Edited 27 August , 2021 by JWK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Boyce Posted 28 August , 2021 Share Posted 28 August , 2021 16 hours ago, JWK said: It's a list of French POW's in Lazaretts , dated 3 Feb 1915. How I got there: Name: Boyce Nationality : French or Belgian Military Then click on any card, and type in P 15125 Somehow I thought that PA means "Prisonniers Angleterre" (English prisoner) , and "P" just Prisonniers (all other nationalities), so the list would be in the French Army files. I am most probably mistaken, but at least it got us there! https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Zoom/E/02/02/C_G1_E_02_02_0076/C_G1_E_02_02_0076_0134.JPG/4 https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Zoom/E/02/02/C_G1_E_02_02_0076/C_G1_E_02_02_0076_0109.JPG/4 ah thank you, that makes sense.....good to have your knowledge, much appreciated, Mandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footsore Private Posted 1 April , 2022 Share Posted 1 April , 2022 Private George Augustus Mulford of the Sheffield City Battalion (12th Bn., York & Lancaster Regt.) number 12/1003 was wounded and captured on 1 July 1916 and spent time imprisoned at Camp Cassel. His story is online here: http://www.pals.org.uk/sheffield/mulford.htm Original is at Imperial War Museum Department of Documents (84/41/1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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